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Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

"In some respects"?

That's a lot different from your earlier claims. In fact Bush was a very popular governor and if you look at the link I provided you can read and learn of his leadership and what he brought to the State.

It's no different. (btw, I gave two links so you'd read them both before leaping off the deep end. Try again)
 
It's no different. (btw, I gave two links so you'd read them both before leaping off the deep end. Try again)


Were they magic links? Designed to make a conservative all of the sudden become a zombie and agree with you?

pfft....What a joke.


j-mac
 
Were they magic links? Designed to make a conservative all of the sudden become a zombie and agree with you?

pfft....What a joke.


j-mac

So, learning factual information is wrong? That type of thinking would explain a lot. :coffeepap
 
So, learning factual information is wrong? That type of thinking would explain a lot. :coffeepap

No, see that's the problem Joe. You seem to wrongly believe that only your opinion is correct, that only the opinion, and or op-ed journalism that you agree with is factual. You're not open to other opinion, other than to typically be divisive and arrogantly rude.

You know, there was a time when I thought for a liberal you were at least reasonable. Hell I've even defended you on occasion. But, you've changed Joe.

You used to be someone I would have sat down to have a beer with would that day ever have come. But now? With the attitude you display? Nah, not so much.

J-mac

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I am personally a little frustrated with President Obama. I would like to see a president more along the lines that the Repulicorps paint hime. A left wing liberal willing to fight for left wing liberal ideals, rather than kissing R but to reach compromise & getting slapped down time after time! :peace
"Associated Press By STEVE PEOPLES | Associated Press – 13 hrs ago"

"They are trying to be hopeful, but the Democratic Party's most passionate voters are struggling to hide their frustration with President Barack Obama."

Frustrated liberals want more from Obama - Yahoo! News


I think many had Hoped Obama was the lesser of two evils last time, I wonder how that Hope will work this time?
 

Without the Filibuster, things would have been different. :peace

IMO, it is true. Senator Obama sold a bill of goods to the voters, and didn't know how to bring home the goods. It just proves he is not POTUS material. He hasn't done what he promised.

I will be voting against him this time around. Fool me once, but never a second time.
 
American Prisons , especially the supermax, hold the scum of the earth now, Senator/President Obama's problem was not knowing that the R's were gonna be effen a-holes. :peace
It's easier to say "I will clsoe GITMO in the 1st year of my presidency" than actually doing the deed. IMHO, President Obama had to have been briefed on the fact that "other" countries wouldn't take these GITMO folks before he won the election. Hell, we all knew it when Bush was in office.

He and his boob AG Holder wanted to "have a trial" in New York for show. But that didn't pan out either. So now he's stuck just like Bush was stuck. They are people who no one wants on their soil.
 
No, see that's the problem Joe. You seem to wrongly believe that only your opinion is correct, that only the opinion, and or op-ed journalism that you agree with is factual. You're not open to other opinion, other than to typically be divisive and arrogantly rude.

You know, there was a time when I thought for a liberal you were at least reasonable. Hell I've even defended you on occasion. But, you've changed Joe.

You used to be someone I would have sat down to have a beer with would that day ever have come. But now? With the attitude you display? Nah, not so much.

J-mac

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j you might want to look at the soruces again. You really should. :coffeepap
 
You know, there was a time when I thought for a liberal you were at least reasonable. Hell I've even defended you on occasion. But, you've changed Joe.

You used to be someone I would have sat down to have a beer with would that day ever have come. But now? With the attitude you display? Nah, not so much.

J-mac

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J, I'd still love to ahve a beer with you. Though I rarely have a beer these days. But, I try to only give what I get. You present some pretty wild arguments, and too often they lack any connection to reality. And in stead of tryint to tackle them with reason, you go off silly. But that is your choice to do that. If you want better discourse, give better discourse.
 
J, I'd still love to ahve a beer with you. Though I rarely have a beer these days.

K.

But, I try to only give what I get.


Try harder. As of late I have seen you instigate the snark, through smileys and other snotty responses when none were warranted.

You present some pretty wild arguments, and too often they lack any connection to reality.

Funny, I could say the same of your arguments.

And in stead of tryint to tackle them with reason, you go off silly.

Again, the inverse works here also.

But that is your choice to do that. If you want better discourse, give better discourse.

And the trifecta of projection is in play here....:coffeepap:

j-mac
 
K.




Try harder. As of late I have seen you instigate the snark, through smileys and other snotty responses when none were warranted.



Funny, I could say the same of your arguments.



Again, the inverse works here also.



And the trifecta of projection is in play here....:coffeepap:

j-mac

I like smiles j. When I smile, I think I should share. ;)

You've seen me debate with others. You even commented that you noticed a difference. The difference is that I am reasonable with a reasonable person. You've seen and commented on it. :coffeepap
 
Don't forget, the conservatives are all jealous that our "liberal" President has a Nobel Peace Prize.:2razz:

A mistaken case for Syrian regime change

"The blueprint for this project is essentially a report produced by the neo-conservative Brookings Institute for regime change in Iran in 2009. The report - "Which Path to Persia?" [3] - continues to be the generic strategic approach for US-led regime change in the region."
"The authors of these reports include, among others, John Hannah and Martin Indyk, both former senior neo-conservative officials from the George W Bush/Dick Cheney administration, and both advocates for regime change in Syria. "


Asia Times Online :: A mistaken case for Syrian regime change

"But the most obvious test of the president's claim that we're not really engaged in an act of war is to ask: What if the shoe were on the other foot? Let's say a coalition of foreign forces was bombing American cities and killing our citizens with the intent to overthrow our political leadership. How would we respond to an argument by one party to that assault that their use of unmanned weapons to kill Americans shouldn't be deemed an engagement of hostilities with us? Merely to pose the question is to understand the utter preposterousness of the administration's position. The administration's real goal, since it almost certainly would have received congressional approval for war in Libya had it sought it from the beginning, appears to be to extend the principle that when it comes to war and "national security" (increasingly broadly defined), the executive branch should be unconstrained to act as it sees fit. As James Fallows has written, "after three months of combat, and after several decades of drift toward unilateral Executive Branch action on matters of war and peace, Obama is doing a disservice to the nation, history, and himself by insisting that the decision should be left strictly to him."


For all of you convinced the Arab Spring is "spontaneous".

"What then is the new anatomy of the great game? In the past, color revolutions were largely blueprinted in the offices of the political consultancies of "K" Street in Washington. But in the new format, the "technicians" attempting to shape the region [2] , hail directly from the US government: according to reports by senior official sources in the region, Jeffrey Feltman, a former ambassador in Lebanon, and presently assistant secretary of state, as chief coordinator [3], together with two former US ambassadors, Ron Schlicher and David Hale, who is also the new US Middle East Peace Envoy. "

Asia Times Online :: The 'great game' in Syria

Asia Times Online :: The shadow war in Syria

Obama and Libya: From hopemonger to warmonger
Obama and Libya: From hopemonger to warmonger | Jonathan Weiler | Independent Weekly
 
Don't forget, the conservatives are all jealous that our "liberal" President has a Nobel Peace Prize.:2razz:
Oh, YEAH!!!

I'm actually dying to know what the senile loons on the Peace Prize committee think about that award now.
 
I'm actually dying to know what the senile loons on the Peace Prize committee think about that award now.

I suspect they would regard it as one of their more prescient choices. In general, those outside the U.S.A. have a very different view of Obama from yours.

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I suspect they would regard it as one of their more prescient choices. In general, those outside the U.S.A. have a very different view of Obama from yours.

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You're right. Americans approve of his drone attacks, Europeans don't! :lamo
 
You're right. Americans approve of his drone attacks, Europeans don't! :lamo

Actually, Obama's ability to achieve tactical and strategic objectives without invading countries is only one of the things that those outside the U.S.A., including Europeans, appreciate. Those who live in parliamentary democracies appreciate his ability to speak in fully formed sentences. They like that he's a straight shooter and not a lunatic, hillbilly, misogynist, homophone or xenophobe. I realize that doesn't set the bar very high but, in their minds, it places him among the best presidents the U.S. has produced in the last half century. As I said, a very different view from yours.

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Actually, Obama's ability to achieve tactical and strategic objectives without invading countries is only one of the things that those outside the U.S.A., including Europeans, appreciate. Those who live in parliamentary democracies appreciate his ability to speak in fully formed sentences. They like that he's a straight shooter and not a lunatic, hillbilly, misogynist, homophone or xenophobe. I realize that doesn't set the bar very high but, in their minds, it places him among the best presidents the U.S. has produced in the last half century. As I said, a very different view from yours.

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That's nice. That's very nice. You want 'em?
 
He was an improvement over what we had. And I don't see a better alternative. So, yeah, I'd keep him. ;)
Please take him with you. I don't want him. I don't want anyone else like him. I was banned from a previous thread for saying the one term Marxist was among the very worst of our presidents. I think that FDR and Bush did almost as much damage to this nation as the Marxist. I am willing to risk it again. So if you want him by all means take him.
 
Please take him with you. I don't want him. I don't want anyone else like him. I was banned from a previous thread for saying the one term Marxist was among the very worst of our presidents. I think that FDR and Bush did almost as much damage to this nation as the Marxist. I am willing to risk it again. So if you want him by all means take him.

I was wondering when the disingenuous and hyperbolic Marxist stuff would return. Too funny (sad). :coffeepap
 
Please take him with you. I don't want him.

As the story goes, a group of Canadians offered their Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, a bona fide large "C" Conservative, for Obama. Straight up. The American contingent was about to accept the trade when the Canadians got greedy and tried to unload Celine Dion with Harper. Buggered the deal.

I don't want anyone else like him.

I have what you will mistake for good news: We will not see Obama's like again.

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Actually, Obama's ability to achieve tactical and strategic objectives without invading countries is only one of the things that those outside the U.S.A., including Europeans, appreciate. Those who live in parliamentary democracies appreciate his ability to speak in fully formed sentences. They like that he's a straight shooter and not a lunatic, hillbilly, misogynist, homophone or xenophobe. I realize that doesn't set the bar very high but, in their minds, it places him among the best presidents the U.S. has produced in the last half century. As I said, a very different view from yours.

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You're right. Vlad Putin deeply appreciates the Obama Administration's "reset".
 
You're right. Vlad Putin deeply appreciates the Obama Administration's "reset".

Apparently so. Enough to rescind their shipment of attack helicopters to Syria, at least.

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