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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was wondering when the disingenuous and hyperbolic Marxist stuff would return. Too funny (sad).
    You are still welcome to him. You and he...peas in a pod.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Please take him with you. I don't want him.
    As the story goes, a group of Canadians offered their Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, a bona fide large "C" Conservative, for Obama. Straight up. The American contingent was about to accept the trade when the Canadians got greedy and tried to unload Celine Dion with Harper. Buggered the deal.

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    I don't want anyone else like him.
    I have what you will mistake for good news: We will not see Obama's like again.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pirvaya View Post
    Actually, Obama's ability to achieve tactical and strategic objectives without invading countries is only one of the things that those outside the U.S.A., including Europeans, appreciate. Those who live in parliamentary democracies appreciate his ability to speak in fully formed sentences. They like that he's a straight shooter and not a lunatic, hillbilly, misogynist, homophone or xenophobe. I realize that doesn't set the bar very high but, in their minds, it places him among the best presidents the U.S. has produced in the last half century. As I said, a very different view from yours.

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    You're right. Vlad Putin deeply appreciates the Obama Administration's "reset".
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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    You're right. Vlad Putin deeply appreciates the Obama Administration's "reset".
    Apparently so. Enough to rescind their shipment of attack helicopters to Syria, at least.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You are still welcome to him. You and he...peas in a pod.
    I'm in good company than.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Don't forget, the conservatives are all jealous that our "liberal" President has a Nobel Peace Prize.

    A mistaken case for Syrian regime change

    "The blueprint for this project is essentially a report produced by the neo-conservative Brookings Institute for regime change in Iran in 2009. The report - "Which Path to Persia?" [3] - continues to be the generic strategic approach for US-led regime change in the region."
    "The authors of these reports include, among others, John Hannah and Martin Indyk, both former senior neo-conservative officials from the George W Bush/Dick Cheney administration, and both advocates for regime change in Syria. "


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    "But the most obvious test of the president's claim that we're not really engaged in an act of war is to ask: What if the shoe were on the other foot? Let's say a coalition of foreign forces was bombing American cities and killing our citizens with the intent to overthrow our political leadership. How would we respond to an argument by one party to that assault that their use of unmanned weapons to kill Americans shouldn't be deemed an engagement of hostilities with us? Merely to pose the question is to understand the utter preposterousness of the administration's position. The administration's real goal, since it almost certainly would have received congressional approval for war in Libya had it sought it from the beginning, appears to be to extend the principle that when it comes to war and "national security" (increasingly broadly defined), the executive branch should be unconstrained to act as it sees fit. As James Fallows has written, "after three months of combat, and after several decades of drift toward unilateral Executive Branch action on matters of war and peace, Obama is doing a disservice to the nation, history, and himself by insisting that the decision should be left strictly to him."


    For all of you convinced the Arab Spring is "spontaneous".

    "What then is the new anatomy of the great game? In the past, color revolutions were largely blueprinted in the offices of the political consultancies of "K" Street in Washington. But in the new format, the "technicians" attempting to shape the region [2] , hail directly from the US government: according to reports by senior official sources in the region, Jeffrey Feltman, a former ambassador in Lebanon, and presently assistant secretary of state, as chief coordinator [3], together with two former US ambassadors, Ron Schlicher and David Hale, who is also the new US Middle East Peace Envoy. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirvaya View Post
    Apparently so. Enough to rescind their shipment of attack helicopters to Syria, at least.

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    The problem is most TV mimicks Fox News using govmnt/mouthpieces and establishment voices when discussing major issues like the war on Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, if they cover it at all.

    The most egregious fraud of the American TV/Radio is of course, the sins of omission. It didn't happen and therefore never makes into the day-to-day national psyche.

    When a major publication like the Viilage Voice was bought off by a big corporation or Huffington by AOL, and the public outcry is silenced, when media mergers create a huge backlash against state propaganda, one that is seldom heard, a lot of people lose faith in the system of democracy and free speech.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was wondering when the disingenuous and hyperbolic Marxist stuff would return. Too funny (sad).
    Being a Marxist is perfectly legal and there are marxist professors teaching in many American universities. Of course if it leads to treason that's quite another matter.

    Obama Espoused Radical Views in College

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Being a Marxist is perfectly legal and there are marxist professors teaching in many American universities. Of course if it leads to treason that's quite another matter.

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    Obama abandons missile defence shield in Europe | World news | guardian.co.uk
    I never said it was illegal. I said it was a disingenuous and hyperbolic stuff (in relation to anything to do with Obama).

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I never said it was illegal. I said it was a disingenuous and hyperbolic stuff (in relation to anything to do with Obama).
    And nowhere did I make that claim. Read it and see for yourself.

    I said it was legal and therefor permitted. If B.H. Obama is a Marxist, and it seems likely he is, what's wrong with that?

    Obama: “I Chose My Friends Carefully… Marxist Professors and Structural Feminists” | The American Pundit

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And nowhere did I make that claim. Read it and see for yourself.

    I said it was legal and therefor permitted. If B.H. Obama is a Marxist, and it seems likely he is, what's wrong with that?

    Obama: “I Chose My Friends Carefully… Marxist Professors and Structural Feminists” | The American Pundit
    I repeat:
    It was and is disingenuous and hyperbolic stuff (in relation to anything to do with Obama).


    Obama appears to be nothing of the kind. Reading stupid **** and accepting stupid **** doesn't make any of it real.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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