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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
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    Try harder. As of late I have seen you instigate the snark, through smileys and other snotty responses when none were warranted.



    Funny, I could say the same of your arguments.



    Again, the inverse works here also.



    And the trifecta of projection is in play here....:

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Don't forget, the conservatives are all jealous that our "liberal" President has a Nobel Peace Prize.

    A mistaken case for Syrian regime change

    "The blueprint for this project is essentially a report produced by the neo-conservative Brookings Institute for regime change in Iran in 2009. The report - "Which Path to Persia?" [3] - continues to be the generic strategic approach for US-led regime change in the region."
    "The authors of these reports include, among others, John Hannah and Martin Indyk, both former senior neo-conservative officials from the George W Bush/Dick Cheney administration, and both advocates for regime change in Syria. "


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    "But the most obvious test of the president's claim that we're not really engaged in an act of war is to ask: What if the shoe were on the other foot? Let's say a coalition of foreign forces was bombing American cities and killing our citizens with the intent to overthrow our political leadership. How would we respond to an argument by one party to that assault that their use of unmanned weapons to kill Americans shouldn't be deemed an engagement of hostilities with us? Merely to pose the question is to understand the utter preposterousness of the administration's position. The administration's real goal, since it almost certainly would have received congressional approval for war in Libya had it sought it from the beginning, appears to be to extend the principle that when it comes to war and "national security" (increasingly broadly defined), the executive branch should be unconstrained to act as it sees fit. As James Fallows has written, "after three months of combat, and after several decades of drift toward unilateral Executive Branch action on matters of war and peace, Obama is doing a disservice to the nation, history, and himself by insisting that the decision should be left strictly to him."


    For all of you convinced the Arab Spring is "spontaneous".

    "What then is the new anatomy of the great game? In the past, color revolutions were largely blueprinted in the offices of the political consultancies of "K" Street in Washington. But in the new format, the "technicians" attempting to shape the region [2] , hail directly from the US government: according to reports by senior official sources in the region, Jeffrey Feltman, a former ambassador in Lebanon, and presently assistant secretary of state, as chief coordinator [3], together with two former US ambassadors, Ron Schlicher and David Hale, who is also the new US Middle East Peace Envoy. "

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Don't forget, the conservatives are all jealous that our "liberal" President has a Nobel Peace Prize.
    Oh, YEAH!!!

    I'm actually dying to know what the senile loons on the Peace Prize committee think about that award now.
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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    I'm actually dying to know what the senile loons on the Peace Prize committee think about that award now.
    I suspect they would regard it as one of their more prescient choices. In general, those outside the U.S.A. have a very different view of Obama from yours.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pirvaya View Post
    I suspect they would regard it as one of their more prescient choices. In general, those outside the U.S.A. have a very different view of Obama from yours.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    You're right. Americans approve of his drone attacks, Europeans don't!
    Actually, Obama's ability to achieve tactical and strategic objectives without invading countries is only one of the things that those outside the U.S.A., including Europeans, appreciate. Those who live in parliamentary democracies appreciate his ability to speak in fully formed sentences. They like that he's a straight shooter and not a lunatic, hillbilly, misogynist, homophone or xenophobe. I realize that doesn't set the bar very high but, in their minds, it places him among the best presidents the U.S. has produced in the last half century. As I said, a very different view from yours.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pirvaya View Post
    Actually, Obama's ability to achieve tactical and strategic objectives without invading countries is only one of the things that those outside the U.S.A., including Europeans, appreciate. Those who live in parliamentary democracies appreciate his ability to speak in fully formed sentences. They like that he's a straight shooter and not a lunatic, hillbilly, misogynist, homophone or xenophobe. I realize that doesn't set the bar very high but, in their minds, it places him among the best presidents the U.S. has produced in the last half century. As I said, a very different view from yours.

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    That's nice. That's very nice. You want 'em?

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That's nice. That's very nice. You want 'em?
    He was an improvement over what we had. And I don't see a better alternative. So, yeah, I'd keep him.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He was an improvement over what we had. And I don't see a better alternative. So, yeah, I'd keep him.
    Please take him with you. I don't want him. I don't want anyone else like him. I was banned from a previous thread for saying the one term Marxist was among the very worst of our presidents. I think that FDR and Bush did almost as much damage to this nation as the Marxist. I am willing to risk it again. So if you want him by all means take him.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Please take him with you. I don't want him. I don't want anyone else like him. I was banned from a previous thread for saying the one term Marxist was among the very worst of our presidents. I think that FDR and Bush did almost as much damage to this nation as the Marxist. I am willing to risk it again. So if you want him by all means take him.
    I was wondering when the disingenuous and hyperbolic Marxist stuff would return. Too funny (sad).

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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