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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    So far this is this has to be the funniest quote of the election.

    "it's like somebody goes to a restaurant, orders a big steak dinner, martini, all that stuff, and then, just as you're sitting down, they leave, and accuse you of running up the tab! That's what they do!"

    "I am not making this up!"

    It doesn't get much better than that!!

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Doesn't Obamas/Hillary Clintons embrace of Bush/Cheneys pre-emptive war doctrine, categorize them all as NeoCons now?

    Obamas foreign Policy is identical to Richard Pearls, Defense Policy Board, yes?
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    Holy crap this post is so stupid i don't know where to begin.
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    Don't you think there is something inherently evil about Obamas unending war machine in order to bolster American corporations at the expense of innocent lives?

    Now we have multiple regime changes at once by Obama/Hillary - Libya, Syria, while invoking 9/11 like Dubya, and if you think the goal in Iran is any less than over turning the government there, it is a short sighted viewpoint, is it not?


    These are Napoleonic wars, American style. France used to send off Napoleon to divide and conquer whenever the Treasury was empty, like the Great Britian of old.

    As was the case in Libya, the United States used NATO as a cover to seize Libyan oil, by doing a "Wag the Dog" (DeNiro) type humanitarian scenario, with the help of France and the UK who played a minor role. The same thing is now happening in Syria, a pretext of protecting civillians from "brutual dictatorship" in order to seize oil, much like Iraq.

    Of course, what the "liberal" media isn't telling you is that Obama and Hillary armed the rebels in both countries, and caused a majority of the casualties .
    Again, no answer.

    More slander with no specifics, facts, or anything to back it up.

    Second time in a row, Ballin75.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So far this is this has to be the funniest quote of the election.

    "it's like somebody goes to a restaurant, orders a big steak dinner, martini, all that stuff, and then, just as you're sitting down, they leave, and accuse you of running up the tab! That's what they do!"

    "I am not making this up!"

    It doesn't get much better than that!!
    This is the level of intellect/debate preferred by the right. And they want to run the country.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Again, no answer.

    More slander with no specifics, facts, or anything to back it up.

    Second time in a row, Ballin75.
    Funny, I was going to say the exact same thing about your argument.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Obama has a weird problem. The left doesn't think he is liberal enough and the right thinks that he is the biggest socialist in history of mankind.

    The man can't win.
    I certainly believe you are right. He cannot win...or the nation loses.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    This is the level of intellect/debate preferred by the right. And they want to run the country.

    Yes, we should all just make **** up, and mock our opponents like you.


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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Funny, I was going to say the exact same thing about your argument.
    Yeah right. Never any news links along with your BS!

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    This is the level of intellect/debate preferred by the right. And they want to run the country.
    Actually I was quoting Barack Obama.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Texas governors are figureheads? Being governor of the State of Texas means he's inexperienced to the extreme??? What nonsense!

    Governorship of George W. Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In some respects it is the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, who presides over the state Senate, who is a more powerful political figure able to exercise greater personal prerogatives.[1][2]. Current Governor Rick Perry served as Lieutenant Governor from 1999-2000, under George W. Bush.

    Governor of Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The main source of the relative weakness of the Texas Governor can be found in the historical conditions surrounding the Texas Constitution of 1876.

    Texas Politics - The Executive Branch

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In some respects it is the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, who presides over the state Senate, who is a more powerful political figure able to exercise greater personal prerogatives.[1][2]. Current Governor Rick Perry served as Lieutenant Governor from 1999-2000, under George W. Bush.

    Governor of Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The main source of the relative weakness of the Texas Governor can be found in the historical conditions surrounding the Texas Constitution of 1876.

    Texas Politics - The Executive Branch
    "In some respects"?

    That's a lot different from your earlier claims. In fact Bush was a very popular governor and if you look at the link I provided you can read and learn of his leadership and what he brought to the State.

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