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    Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Furious

    From today's testimony in the House:

    Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious
    by Matt CoverJune 7, 2012

    (CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

    Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

    However, the emails refer to both programs -- "Fast and Furious" and the "Tucson case," from where Wide Receiver was launched -- and reveal Justice Department officials discussing how to handle media scrutiny when both operations become public.

    Among three of the emails (see
    Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf), the second, dated “October 17, 2010 11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states: “Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”

    In the third email, dated Oct. 18, 2010, James Trusty writes back to Weinstein: “I think so, but the timing will be tricky, too. Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the Tucson case sooner than the Fast and Furious (although this may be just the difference between Nov. and Dec).”

    “It’s not clear how much we’re involved in the main F and F [Fast and Furious] case,” reads the email, “but we have Tucson [Wide Receiver] and now a new unrelated case with [redacted] targets. It’s not any big surprise that a bunch of US guns are being used in MX [Mexico], so I’m not sure how much grief we get for ‘guns walking.’ It may be more like ‘Finally, they’re going after people who sent guns down there.’” (See
    Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf)

    Operation Wide Receiver was run out of Tucson, Ariz., between 2006 and 2007 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), a division of the Justice Department.

    In his testimony, Holder said that the emails only referred to Operation Wide Receiver.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hold...ation-fast-and
    My understanding is that he said it all with a straight face. Sorry folks, but he has to resign. This is the most disguting DoJ in recent memory.

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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    A conspiracy funded by the American taxpayer to get guns to Mexican drug cartels, managed by the Justice Department.

    How long is congress going to let this escapade continue?
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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    Here's a video link. Bald faced lying. Right to the Congressman.

    Breitbart TV

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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    This thing should have been have been taken care of, with people going to jail, long ago. At this point it appears nothing is ever going to come of it.
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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    This is the Obama Just-us Dept.

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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    Anyone think Holder is going to make it to October/November this year? I'm thinking "voluntary" resignation coming real soon, maybe before the F&F thing blows up, maybe just before.

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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Anyone think Holder is going to make it to October/November this year? I'm thinking "voluntary" resignation coming real soon, maybe before the F&F thing blows up, maybe just before.
    If the Obama media ever picks it up, then Holder is out in a week. But right now, he gets one big pass.

    You see, we gotta talk about Mitt Romney in high school.

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    He'll do anything...say anything...no matter how pathetic, to drag this out.
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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    If the Obama media ever picks it up, then Holder is out in a week. But right now, he gets one big pass.

    You see, we gotta talk about Mitt Romney in high school.

    Of course we have to...

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    Re: Holder: Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast & Fur

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Anyone think Holder is going to make it to October/November this year? I'm thinking "voluntary" resignation coming real soon, maybe before the F&F thing blows up, maybe just before.
    I hate to burst your bubble, but Holder isn't going anywhere. Literally no one cares about this outside the right wing blogosphere.
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