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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    The thing I don't understand is, a governor, Scott Walker in this case, gets elected by a good majority, and does exactly what he said he intended to do when running for election, and then he's accused of breaking unions just because he's trying to fix the fiscal mess of the state. [...]
    You have evidence that while running for election he said that he was going to break unions? May we see that please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
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    Thank you! I was searching for a good political forum, and after a read-through of some threads, this one looks like it has a good mix of differing viewpoints, intelligence and relative civility, so I decided to give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You have evidence that while running for election he said that he was going to break unions? May we see that please?
    He never said that he was going to break unions, and he's not breaking unions. Curbing collective bargaining and stripping the requirement that one MUST join the union in order to work at a specific job is not breaking unions. The people who want to be in a labor union can still unionize all they want.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    he was smart to prefer a permanent solution.
    I don't think I'd describe corporate fascism as smart, and I'm not sure his approach was smart, but he did accomplish the goal of crushing the workers to the benefit of the corporations (who got the tax breaks). I realize that the right thinks this is a good thing, but I'm not sure that they are smart in admitting it in public.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    I don't think I'd describe corporate fascism as smart, and I'm not sure his approach was smart, but he did accomplish the goal of crushing the workers to the benefit of the corporations (who got the tax breaks). I realize that the right thinks this is a good thing, but I'm not sure that they are smart in admitting it in public.
    blablabla. the will of the people was done TWICE. crying about fascism is weak sauce

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    He never said that he was going to break unions, and he's not breaking unions.
    Of course he's breaking unions. Stripping them of collective bargaining rights is what -- a Christmas bonus?

    However, can you at least provide evidence that during the campaign he said he was going to eliminate collective bargaining for state employees?

    After all, you said he is doing exactly what he campaigned on:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man, earlier View Post
    The thing I don't understand is, a governor, Scott Walker in this case, gets elected by a good majority, and does exactly what he said he intended to do when running for election, and then he's accused of breaking unions just because he's trying to fix the fiscal mess of the state. So they bring him to a recall election just because of that, which he wins again by a large margin. This is just a case of sore losership for the democrats in Wisconsin. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I don't think I'd describe corporate fascism as smart, and I'm not sure his approach was smart, but he did accomplish the goal of crushing the workers to the benefit of the corporations (who got the tax breaks). I realize that the right thinks this is a good thing, but I'm not sure that they are smart in admitting it in public.

    Aw, yes, another "Progressive" temper tantrum and distortion of reality. No one was crushed and if you don't live in Wisconsin why does this affect you? The people of Wisconsin spoke so your next step has to be to get an activist judge to overturn the will of the people. When is that going to happen?

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Of course he's weakening public unions.
    fixed it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Of course he's breaking unions. Stripping them of collective bargaining rights is what -- a Christmas bonus?

    However, can you at least provide evidence that during the campaign he said he was going to eliminate collective bargaining for state employees?

    After all, you said he is doing exactly what he campaign on:
    So tell me how he's breaking unions. Are employees no longer permitted to unionize in Wisconsin?

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    blablabla. the will of the people was done TWICE. crying about fascism is weak sauce
    Three WI Republican Senators were recalled by the will of the people, apparently throwing control of the Senate to the Democrats, so there seems to be a healthy number out there who don't like the fascism sauce, despite how weak it may or may not be.

    Of course if the majority will of the people is your measure of all that's good and proper, I'm sure you're just tickled pink with President Obama

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