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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Apparently I am having my rights denied. Interesting.

    Very well, Boo, I accept your logic. If teachers can invade Madison to protest budget cuts, then we shall see how well you favor it when I unionize the Marine Corps and we.... "invade"... Washington DC to lodge our protests over slashes to DOD funding. I'm betting a couple of tanks parked outside the capital and a BN of infantry guarding the exits would focus Congresscritters minds wonderfully on how Very Important It Is To Double Each Military Member's Pay Overnight Regardless Of The Effect On The Budget.



    When portions of a government become an active political interest group, it represents a removal of sovereignty from the populace. It is Government by the Government for the Government.


    Great post and, IMO, it needs to be reposted.

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    mad Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Many elections, from Nixon onward don't turn out the way I wanted, that was the American way, prior to "Citizens United".
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Except that in this case it was a waste of money as the recall did not do what those that called for it wanted it to do. They also only wanted it for one reason and one reason only. To protect their precious public union bargaining "right". If you spend millions of dollars on something and it fails in its purpose then that money was wasted.

    If a recall suceeds then its not a waste. If it fails then it was a waste.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    They (R's) broke a contract.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes I know they agreed to the concessions. But how long would those concessions have lasted? The odds are that they would have lasted until a democrat was in office. Then things would have gone back up. Which means that ultimately the situation wasn't fixed. They just put a bandaid on it. Walkers solution was far more permanent.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Koch Bros. won!!!
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    What were the results of the recall election?

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Here's what I found a PolitiFact Wisconsin


    Gov. Walker said: "most state employees could pay twice as much toward their health care premiums and it would still be half the national average." Politifact said: "It's True."

    The article stated "unionized state workers pay about 4 percent to 5 percent of their health insurance premiums". The Kaiser Family Foundation did a study saying employees share "paid by state and local government workers nationwide at 25 percent for family coverage."


    Thus I have to conclude, these union folks were/are getting better bennies, coming from Wisconsin taxpayers pockets, that the taxpayer is getting.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post
    Koch Bros. won!!!
    LOL, Koch Brothers but not a world about union money and George Soros!! The people of Wisconsin won!!

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    The thing I don't understand is, a governor, Scott Walker in this case, gets elected by a good majority, and does exactly what he said he intended to do when running for election, and then he's accused of breaking unions just because he's trying to fix the fiscal mess of the state. So they bring him to a recall election just because of that, which he wins again by a large margin. This is just a case of sore losership for the democrats in Wisconsin. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    The thing I don't understand is, a governor, Scott Walker in this case, gets elected by a good majority, and does exactly what he said he intended to do when running for election, and then he's accused of breaking unions just because he's trying to fix the fiscal mess of the state. So they bring him to a recall election just because of that, which he wins again by a large margin. This is just a case of sore losership for the democrats in Wisconsin. Nothing more, nothing less.


    Welcome.

    Well most thinking folks would see it that way.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Here's what I found a PolitiFact Wisconsin

    Gov. Walker said: "most state employees could pay twice as much toward their health care premiums and it would still be half the national average." Politifact said: "It's True."

    The article stated "unionized state workers pay about 4 percent to 5 percent of their health insurance premiums". The Kaiser Family Foundation did a study saying employees share "paid by state and local government workers nationwide at 25 percent for family coverage."

    Thus I have to conclude, these union folks were/are getting better bennies, coming from Wisconsin taxpayers pockets, that the taxpayer is getting.
    So you want to take those benefits away from them, and give it to big corporations in the form of new tax breaks. We already know that is the right wing plan -- take from the worker, give to the rich.

    But was Walker satisfied when the unions finally agreed to his reverse Robin Hood plan -- and agreed to pay more?

    No, he was not. He went on to eliminate most of their collective bargaining rights, proving that your post was a wasted effort -- it wasn't about money, it was about stripping power from unions.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    But was Walker satisfied when the unions finally agreed to his reverse Robin Hood plan -- and agreed to pay more?
    he was smart to prefer a permanent solution.

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