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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Teachers are the sacred cows. It's for the chillllldrennnnn!!!!! Puke.


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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Teachers are the sacred cows. It's for the chillllldrennnnn!!!!! Puke.
    Sadly, teachers have gone from being sacred cows to being sacrificial lambs. Puke.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sadly, teachers have gone from being sacred cows to being sacrificial lambs. Puke.
    No. The taxpayer finally realized that the cow was full of cow pies.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. That's baloney. Public sector unions are out of control . . . demanding private sector employees to pay outrageous taxes to support their sahweet retirement plans, health insurance plans, and salaries well beyond the private sector. The people paying their salaries and benefits are going broke trying to do it. And that information is kept carefully concealed. Here in Illinois, teachers are bumped into higher "steps on the ladder" three or four years before retirement -- given "promotions" that result in huge pay increases...thus impacting their pensions through the roof. One teacher I know is earning $130,000 in retirement -- at age 56. At age 59, she'll receive a 9% bump -- and then 3% per year thereafter. Disgusting. Highest retirement on Sociall Security? Just under $30K a year.

    Teachers are the sacred cows. It's for the chillllldrennnnn!!!!! Puke.

    No whats baloney is the rich blaming public workers for this deficit that they created, what you call sweetheart retirement plans is something the PRIVATE sector pigs at the trough should be giving to their workers...instead they POCKET it all...thats why theyve gotten fabulously richer when the workers have lost lots of ground...they have successfully pitted the now raped private sector against the only working class making a fair wage..the public sector....Im going to sit here and watch the private sector workers get stripped of even more....their social security and medicate im going to watch the rich get even far more richer while the middle class disappears and then Im going to remind you of these posts and threads here when you whine that you have nothing....not you personally maggie
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No whats baloney is the rich blaming public workers for this deficit that they created, what you call sweetheart retirement plans is something the PRIVATE sector pigs at the trough should be giving to their workers...instead they POCKET it all...thats why theyve gotten fabulously richer when the workers have lost lots of ground...they have successfully pitted the now raped private sector against the only working class making a fair wage..the public sector....Im going to sit here and watch the private sector workers get stripped of even more....their social security and medicate im going to watch the rich get even far more richer while the middle class disappears and then Im going to remind you of these posts and threads here when you whine that you have nothing....not you personally maggie
    I'm not sure whether to call that Soviet inspired propaganda, or Cuban inspired propaganda... Either way, it has communist/socialist stench all over it... Someone open a window.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    See here is the point where I could play inflammatory little games and change your quote to read 'I am'... but in your case I think it is more a combination of youth + misinformation that shapes your silliness here.


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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    I am adamently against public unions. The Democrats have given away the store and "legislate behind closed doors" (regards 'giving away the store' at the negotiating table) to ensure their own campaign contributions. They should not be allowed to exist.

    Private unions? Leave 'em alone. Private sector unions are (and always will be) a necessity, in my opinion. Demands made by unions in the private sector are checked by profits. No money to pay more wages? Won't happen. Unless, of course, you're a member of the UAW, and then, of course, you can depend on Uncle Sam to bail out your failing company who so egregiously agreed to outrageous demands to sweeten their stock price and enhance bonuses at the top. (Wow, long sentence.)

    I have no problem with private sector unions. Public sector unions, OTOH, should be illegal.
    So, auto makers, factory workers, retail clerks can have good benefits and a voice. But teachers, police officers, and firefighters are what . . . . less worthy? I know that wouldn't be your words, but that is the effect isn't it? If they can't organize and negotiate, they are then second class in a real and tangable way.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    So, auto makers, factory workers, retail clerks can have good benefits and a voice. But teachers, police officers, and firefighters are what . . . . less worthy? I know that wouldn't be your words, but that is the effect isn't it? If they can't organize and negotiate, they are then second class in a real and tangable way.
    Public unions can vote for who takes care of their checks. Private sector unions cannot.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Public unions can vote for who takes care of their checks. Private sector unions cannot.
    So can everyone else. They can vote for who negotiates. There is simply not the advantage some think there is, and too many are focusing on the unions and not those who represent the other side.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, auto makers, factory workers, retail clerks can have good benefits and a voice. But teachers, police officers, and firefighters are what . . . . less worthy? I know that wouldn't be your words, but that is the effect isn't it? If they can't organize and negotiate, they are then second class in a real and tangable way.
    Swing ... and a miss !!

    Private sector unions must still compete in the marketplace. If they are too onerous, too much a parasite, they kill the host. And they perish with it. See Eastern Airlines for just one example.

    Public sector unions have no such self-correcting mechanism. They can suck the host forever.

    They are all volunteers too. If they don't like it, they can get another job. Taxpayers, on the other hand, are not volunteers.

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