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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    When you learn how to read stats like trends the BLS shows, then maybe you'd have a point. Until then you just keep believing that Bush is 100% repsonsible for not protecting us on 9/11.
    Then of course there is this trend, please explain it to me? Good or bad trend?

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I saw this, guffawed, and went to search for an old post I made to point out how ridiculous this expectation or thought is. Then I realized, upon seeing the other post, that it was actually made in response to you lamenting about Johnson probably not getting into the debates. At least at that point you didn't suggest that somehow getting in the debates would give him a reasonable chance, or even an outside chance, to win.





    Ventura was on a state level. Ross Perot also had oodles of Cash, had managed to poll well enough to hit 15% prior to the debates (Which Johnson hasn't but he has the same shot to do it was Perot), and wasn't tied ideologically to a specific party.
    If I recall correctly, Perot did not poll at 15% before the debates and that 15% threshold to make it into the debates was put into place after Perot... precisely because of Perot. He breached 15% after the debates because of the debates if I'm not mistaken. CPD moves the goal posts.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Then of course there is this trend, please explain it to me? Good or bad trend?

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    If you read those as bad on Obama, then you don't know how to read. Notice the trend prior to January 20, 2009 and then the turnaround. When you do your standard cut and past garbage you put 100% responsibility of all the totals, (unemployment and such) on Obama. Therefore, by your logic, you MUST blame Bush 100% for us being attacked on 9/11.

    The only other ploy you enact is your other ridiculous partisan comments that when there is a GOP prez and Dem congress it's the Dem congress' fault and when it's a Dem pres and GOP controlled congress it's the Dem president's fault.

    Partisan hackery at it's finest.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If I recall correctly, Perot did not poll at 15% before the debates and that 15% threshold to make it into the debates was put into place after Perot... precisely because of Perot. He breached 15% after the debates because of the debates if I'm not mistaken. CPD moves the goal posts.
    A third party candidate is Obama's only hope this time around. He cannot run on his record and can only win if a third party candidate takes enough votes away from Romney.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If you read those as bad on Obama, then you don't know how to read. Notice the trend prior to January 20, 2009 and then the turnaround. When you do your standard cut and past garbage you put 100% responsibility of all the totals, (unemployment and such) on Obama. Therefore, by your logic, you MUST blame Bush 100% for us being attacked on 9/11.

    The only other ploy you enact is your other ridiculous partisan comments that when there is a GOP prez and Dem congress it's the Dem congress' fault and when it's a Dem pres and GOP controlled congress it's the Dem president's fault.

    Partisan hackery at it's finest.
    If you bothered to pay attention, Republicans won Governorships in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Florida, and Pa in November 2010 taking office in January. For someone who says they aren't voting for Obama you sure try hard to defend him while ignoring reality.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    If you bothered to pay attention, Republicans won Governorships in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Florida, and Pa in November 2010 taking office in January. For someone who says they aren't voting for Obama you sure try hard to defend him while ignoring reality.
    I just try to defend facts. You however... are NOW deploying a new partisan hackery tactic of giving the turnaround and positive stat credits to the governors now while at the very same time, nonstop blaming Obama for all the negatives in the very same years. All without stating much less proving what policy did what. You got all your bases covered in that partisan bubble you live in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    A third party candidate is Obama's only hope this time around. He cannot run on his record and can only win if a third party candidate takes enough votes away from Romney.
    blah blah blah Obama Obama Obama. You know you've met an overly partisan guy in a political forum when they've made so many posts about the person they hate and never mention the person they intend to support or why... other than "he isn't the person I hate."
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    One of you has supporting links. The other... not so much.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Another dodge? Didn't Walker win?
    So did Obama, get over it.


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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I saw this, guffawed, and went to search for an old post I made to point out how ridiculous this expectation or thought is. Then I realized, upon seeing the other post, that it was actually made in response to you lamenting about Johnson probably not getting into the debates. At least at that point you didn't suggest that somehow getting in the debates would give him a reasonable chance, or even an outside chance, to win.





    Ventura was on a state level. Ross Perot also had oodles of Cash, had managed to poll well enough to hit 15% prior to the debates (Which Johnson hasn't but he has the same shot to do it was Perot), and wasn't tied ideologically to a specific party.
    I don't think Johnson has a chance to win, but he was on Stewart the other night and he claimed that he's polling at 8% and rising, so it's not inconceivable that he could sneak into a debate or two.
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