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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    I haven't been keeping up with this thread since I posted earlier today but I just want to say this. The folks who tried to get Walker recalled did what they thought was right. Whatever the cost, they followed the rules and used a political system in place and had every right to do it, just as the pro Walker people had every right to what they did to defend themselves against the recall effort. This is what should happen, rather than, say, violence or whatever. To those who say this isn't an indication of how the election will go in November, I agree with you. I also don't think 53% is exactly a landslide. Obviously, I'm happy this turned out the way it did, just as I was happy when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts, but the game of politics carries on, and there's no doubt that there will be other outcomes that I will not be so pleased with (I remember 2008 when the Dems won everything). Still, I'd much rather see people give a ****, even if they don't agree with me, than have people not care one way other the other.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    The thing that gets me about conservatives is that they have this fantasy view of life where everything works according to these talk radio platitudes, and they really really could not care less if their platitudes bear the slightest relation to reality.
    For the 1700th time, I don't listen to talk radio, I don't like Rush and I really don't like Sean Hannity that much either. Bill Oreilly is cool with me, he's not a far right nut job. Glenn Beck is "ok" but he gets too far right and crazy as well.

    I'm a conservative, not a far right nut job. I'm mainly concerned with getting our fiscal houses in order, before we go damn bankrupt. We need a proper balance of taxes, regulation, welfare and services, too much or too little of either would send us off the cliff, don't you agree?

    I'm not against welfare and services, I'M FOR THOSE THINGS, what I'm against are people who milk the system along with the excess waste in the system. Welfare should be a bridge back up into the middle class, not a bed setup to sleep off the government benefits for life UNLESS you are mentally/physically sick and incapable of providing for yourself.

    I'm for services, public safety, fire, police, roads, education, I'm for ALL OF THAT. What I'm not for are useless teachers that actually should pick another profession, wasteful and bloated pensions, wasted tax dollars that go to corruption and lobbyists INSTEAD of to direct services. Plus an education system that has only 44% of black males graduating on time, an education system that has been dumbed down and coming out of high school you are really just as dumb as you were coming in.

    I'm FOR the proper balance of regulation, government should be a referee and watching over the game, NOT shooting free throws. The problem is when socialistic and communist style methods get implemented into the federal and state governments where the government starts to become too involved and regulate too much that it hurts the private sector, mainly the small businesses. That's what I'm against.

    I'm FOR taxation, we HAVE to pay taxes and support our government or we don't have a damn country. What I'm AGAINST it over-taxing to compensate for wasteful spending, increases in spending to fund socialistic styles of governing, increases in spending to create more welfare and pensions so people can further milk the system, and over-taxing to cover the various forms of corruption. Then over-taxing for class warfare, because you know "that rich guy" has too much money and he doesn't deserve all that money, yes I know he worked his a.ss off for 20 years to get to where he's at but you know...he doesn't "deserve" that money. This is the sh*t I'm against.

    I'm just a conservative, just like most conservatives. We just want a proper balance of government, the way government should be. Liberals want the government to actually play more of a role in the private sector, which gets us to the Keynesian and Socialistic style of governing, which means taxes go up, the national debt goes up, our credit rating continues to fall, we have low growth rates, wasteful spending goes up and regulations go up...who gets hurt as a result of that? The small business owner. If the small business owner gets hurt, who else gets hurt? The middle class. If the middle class gets hurt, what else gets hurt? The economy.

    Liberals don't want to reform sh*t, liberals want to THROW OUT the capitalistic system in total and replace it with a socialistic style of governing. Conservatives want to keep the current system in place, fix its wrongs and continue to move on being the number one country on Earth.

    You Liberals think big government is the answer, all big government does is foster more corruption. Trust me, I'm AGAINST the corruption on Wallstreet, but if you think the corruption on Wallstreet is something, just keep giving the government more and more power. You haven't seen NOTHING yet.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Oh, Good Lord,, you think funding was more important than people voting their own pocket books? Results matter and Walker has generated some good results which is what matters. Wherever Walker got his money is irrelevant because people are always going to vote their pocket books.
    Good results being? He said he balanced the budget, but he did not. He is paying down the interest on the deficit and by using some accounting tricks makes it look as though he has paid off the state deficit. He has been dead-last in the nation as far as job creation. He said he reduced taxes, however, by reducing the earned-income credit, and removing the homestead credit he has effectively raised the taxes on the poorest in the state. He has had nearly 2 years now to turn this state around, when is it going to happen?

    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...isconsins-36-/

    PolitiFact | Inside the Walker tax debate: Was budget an increase or a cut?

    PolitiFact Wisconsin | Walk-O-Meter: Create 250,000 new jobs
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Good results being? He said he balanced the budget, but he did not. He is paying down the interest on the deficit and by using some accounting tricks makes it look as though he has paid off the state deficit. He has been dead-last in the nation as far as job creation. He said he reduced taxes, however, by reducing the earned-income credit, and removing the homestead credit he has effectively raised the taxes on the poorest in the state. He has had nearly 2 years now to turn this state around, when is it going to happen?

    PolitiFact Wisconsin | Gov. Scott Walker says he eliminated Wisconsin

    PolitiFact | Inside the Walker tax debate: Was budget an increase or a cut?

    PolitiFact Wisconsin | Walk-O-Meter: Create 250,000 new jobs

    Actually, Wisconsin is ranked 24th in job creation (well above dead last) and has a lower than average unemployment rate.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Good results being? He said he balanced the budget, but he did not. He is paying down the interest on the deficit and by using some accounting tricks makes it look as though he has paid off the state deficit. He has been dead-last in the nation as far as job creation. He said he reduced taxes, however, by reducing the earned-income credit, and removing the homestead credit he has effectively raised the taxes on the poorest in the state. He has had nearly 2 years now to turn this state around, when is it going to happen?

    PolitiFact Wisconsin | Gov. Scott Walker says he eliminated Wisconsin

    PolitiFact | Inside the Walker tax debate: Was budget an increase or a cut?

    PolitiFact Wisconsin | Walk-O-Meter: Create 250,000 new jobs
    It is also nice to hear that a progressive believes that after 2 years you should have full control of the economy you are in charge of. Now someone let the rest of the lefties know so we can get rid of Obama. He had 4 years.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Actually, Wisconsin is ranked 24th in job creation (well above dead last) and has a lower than average unemployment rate.
    Are you counting just private sector jobs or private + public?
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    and then exacting from the contributors--to whom a little means so much--a double share to guard the treasure!
    - Robert M. LaFollette, Wisconsin Governor and U.S. Senator

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    It is also nice to hear that a progressive believes that after 2 years you should have full control of the economy you are in charge of. Now someone let the rest of the lefties know so we can get rid of Obama. He had 4 years.
    I was going to say, Conservatives were railing against Obama after a year in office, so Walker has had twice the time Obama had before you guys freaked the F out..
    Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?
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    Before the war is ended, the war party assumes the divine right to denounce and silence all opposition to war as unpatriotic and cowardly.
    - Robert M. LaFollette, Wisconsin Governor and U.S. Senator

    God, how patient are Thy poor! These corporations and masters of manipulation in finance heaping up great fortunes by a system of legalized extortion,
    and then exacting from the contributors--to whom a little means so much--a double share to guard the treasure!
    - Robert M. LaFollette, Wisconsin Governor and U.S. Senator

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    I was going to say, Conservatives were railing against Obama after a year in office, so Walker has had twice the time Obama had before you guys freaked the F out..
    Wisconsin Progressive? LOL, what a surprise!! the election is over, Walker won, get over it.
    Last edited by Conservative; 06-07-12 at 09:15 AM.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    I was going to say, Conservatives were railing against Obama after a year in office, so Walker has had twice the time Obama had before you guys freaked the F out..
    Not sure who "you guys" are, but how would you respond to a recall effort?

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