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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not that concerned with lobbyists. I have no problem with them in general. You're the one who's obssessed with unions. Yes, they use their money to support politicians that support their causes. So does the NRA, so do hundreds of groups on both sides. Welcome to American politics.

    The government employees are employees, and once the money is paid to them as salary, it is their money. The fact that you can't wrap your head around this is baffling. How dense can you be?

    Nice try to change the subject at the end. You must realize your failure because you always change the subject when you lose.
    You continue to miss the point, I have no problem with private sector unions, my issue is with public unions and funding for those unions. All pay and benefits since they come from the taxpayers should be determined by the taxpayers at the ballot box.

    There also is no question that once the money comes from the taxpayer it becomes the union employee but that misses the point totally. Where does that money come from if not the taxpayer?

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Get ready, Wisconsin results would indicate to me tht Illinois, then Michigan are next. You must be proud of your 46th ranking in business climate, which is better than the 48 number last year when Snyder took office. Say good bye to your union funding so you can keep your job
    awwwww yes...the same ol' 'so you can keep your job' schtick...you are a broken record...

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What sources of mine do you have trouble with? I went to the chart and saw no validation or support for anything on it.
    Can the passive agressive faux outrage for someone that gives a damn Haymarket, your typical histrionics are not wanted or needed. Repudiate the numbers or shut up about it and accept it as data. Data that is certainly open to question but you havent begun to make a reasonable attempt at that as yet.

    So quitcher cryin and give it a shot.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    You continue to miss the point, I have no problem with private sector unions, my issue is with public unions and funding for those unions. All pay and benefits since they come from the taxpayers should be determined by the taxpayers at the ballot box.

    There also is no question that once the money comes from the taxpayer it becomes the union employee but that misses the point totally. Where does that money come from if not the taxpayer?
    again, maybe it will sink in this time, IT DOESNT MATTER where it came from, the 'taxpayer'(by the way, which these union members are) paid for a service...this money is now the individuals, and the 'taxpayer' has no claim over it, and does not get to direct how it is spent.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is indeed and the stock market, as far as my stock anyway, has responded accordingly.

    This should give the American people the confidence they need to start turning the country around, but with the real test coming in November. if they can win In November then investors everywhere will once again be bullish on America.
    I hate to be a downer, but something tells me that investors weren't withholding capital awaiting the Wisconsin gubernatorial results.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    I hate to be a downer, but something tells me that investors weren't withholding capital awaiting the Wisconsin gubernatorial results.
    Why would that be a downer, you are absolutely correct as investors invest their own money to make a profit and the Wisconsin results indicate that a strong leader taking action against skyrocketing costs due to union benefits could be an indication that better days are coming. Now we get rid of Obama and really turn the economy around.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Get ready, Wisconsin results would indicate to me tht Illinois, then Michigan are next. You must be proud of your 46th ranking in business climate, which is better than the 48 number last year when Snyder took office. Say good bye to your union funding so you can keep your job
    I have no idea what you have been doing to produce such a ridiculous belief. The funding for my job comes from the same sources that fund Republicans in the same positions. CLUE for the CLUELESS: it has nothing to do with unions or union money.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    The Senate will not be in session again until after the November elections -- in which 16 of the 33 seats are up for grabs -- so who really cares?
    That's a job I want to have.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Can the passive agressive faux outrage for someone that gives a damn Haymarket, your typical histrionics are not wanted or needed. Repudiate the numbers or shut up about it and accept it as data. Data that is certainly open to question but you havent begun to make a reasonable attempt at that as yet.

    So quitcher cryin and give it a shot.
    My bet is that liberals will also claim that the NY Times is lying as well

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us...pagewanted=all

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Can the passive agressive faux outrage for someone that gives a damn Haymarket, your typical histrionics are not wanted or needed. Repudiate the numbers or shut up about it and accept it as data. Data that is certainly open to question but you havent begun to make a reasonable attempt at that as yet.

    So quitcher cryin and give it a shot.
    How can one "repudiate the numbers" when all they are is numbers without sources to examine?
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