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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Here are, according to the info he posted, the worst states (by far). There is a large drop off to get to the next level. Only one of the five worst are right to work.
    California $21,300
    Illinois 17,000
    New Jersey 10,500
    Texas 10,000
    New York 8,200
    Uuuuh, dude.... Those figures represent TOTALs -- not per capita, so it's obviously overweighting populous and high-cost-of-living states.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    They certainly have the right but that doesn't change the fact that they get their paychecks from the taxpayers
    your fact is irrelevant. the money is theirs. you agree with property rights I hope.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm pretty sure the entire discussion is based on what people think is best for the people. Some think collective bargaining is and some think it isn't. Those are the sides among others that people are defending and they're mostly about what's good for "the people."
    I would disagree. I see a whole lot of people discussing the evil attack on 'unions' with all the petty accompanying rhetoric. Hell...I see the blind defense of Walker. Ive asked the questions here several times...no one seems to know or care. What was the economic future of Wisconsin pre Walker, and what is it now. People dont care about the reality...they care about their 'causes'

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I agree that policy discussion would be more beneficial but what do you honestly expect at election time other than horse-race results as the discussion?
    Sadly...we are NEVER out of an election cycle anymore. One of the reasons I would very much favor 4 year congressional terms.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I would disagree. I see a whole lot of people discussing the evil attack on 'unions' with all the petty accompanying rhetoric. Hell...I see the blind defense of Walker. Ive asked the questions here several times...no one seems to know or care. What was the economic future of Wisconsin pre Walker, and what is it now. People dont care about the reality...they care about their 'causes'
    Like most states, Wisconsin had budget problems due to the recession. Also like most states, they have a balanced budget amendment so that was going to happen one way or another. Under Walker, Wisconsin has had the worst job creation record of any state in the country. Walker's jobs record an unmitigated disaster - JSOnline
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sadly...we are NEVER out of an election cycle anymore. One of the reasons I would very much favor 4 year congressional terms.
    Or how about implementing the Mexican presidential ONLY 1 six year term? That'd be nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    your fact is irrelevant. the money is theirs. you agree with property rights I hope.
    your opinion noted, wrong but noted

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I would disagree. I see a whole lot of people discussing the evil attack on 'unions' with all the petty accompanying rhetoric. Hell...I see the blind defense of Walker. Ive asked the questions here several times...no one seems to know or care. What was the economic future of Wisconsin pre Walker, and what is it now. People dont care about the reality...they care about their 'causes'
    I'd like to see more of the reasons and relations between policy and the stats. Otherwise, we'd just get into another thread of people arguing that "it was Obama's/Walker's economy" when it gets better or "it was Obama's/Walker's fault" when it dips.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Like most states, Wisconsin had budget problems due to the recession. Also like most states, they have a balanced budget amendment so that was going to happen one way or another. Under Walker, Wisconsin has had the worst job creation record of any state in the country. Walker's jobs record an unmitigated disaster - JSOnline
    It appears that the majority in Wisconsin disagree with as do the facts from BLS

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    your opinion noted, wrong but noted
    Wow... what a blatant and obvious dodge.

    Your running away is noted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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