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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Millions of dollars were spent to create the recall and what do you have to show for those results? The win was bigger last night than the original election. People will always vote their pocket books and that is what matters. Walker's results show great improvement in the state and that is what led to the overwhelming results last night.
    But, you didn't answer my question. Why spend all that money if money spent doesn't correlate to votes received?










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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    X and Conservative, are you both saying that money doesn't factor into elections? Next you all are going to tell me that AIPAC has only piddling influence on the Hill.

    If money from out of state doesn't mean squat, why was so much out of state money sent to the Walker campaign?
    Nah... money doesn't matter in elections:


    Scott Walker Spent 88% of the Money to Get 53% of the Vote

    Walker's Republican campaign outspent Barrett's Democratic campaign by $30.5 million to $4 million -- that's a 7.5 to 1 advantage. Another way of saying this is that of the $34.5 million spent on their campaigns, Walker spend 88% of the money.

    Walker beat Barrett by 1,316,989 votes to 1,145,190 votes -- 53% to 46% (with 1% going to an independent candidate).

    Here's another way of saying that: Walker spent $23 for each vote he received, while Barrett spent only $3.47 per vote.


    Now to hear garbage spewed about how this election is a bellweather for November's elections. lol
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    I see, so only if Barrett had won, would that have actually been the correct result and the will of the Wisconsin voter. LOL

    Sour grapes do indeed make good whine.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    I see, so only if Barrett had won, would that have actually been the will of the Wisconsin voter. LOL

    Sour grapes do indeed make good whine.

    meh... the only thing uglier than a sore loser is a sore winner.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    meh... the only thing uglier than a sore loser is a sore winner.
    And I'm sure if the election had gone the other way, you would have showed nothing but sympathy for Walker and his supporters.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Scott Walker received reportedly 70% of his funding from out of state thus denying the voter of Wisconsin the right to determine their own governor. The practice is wrong no matter who does it or who benefits. Wrong is wrong.
    I think both sides received out of state funding, but Walker obviously received more. Regardless, I agree with you that out of state funding for a state election is wrong. It should not be allowed anymore than out-of-country funding should be for national elections.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I think both sides received out of state funding, but Walker obviously received more. Regardless, I agree with you that out of state funding for a state election is wrong. It should not be allowed anymore than out-of-country funding should be for national elections.
    It should be. Except for Presidential races, which are basically 51 different state elections (counting DC). Maybe Congress because of the national import of what they do.


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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Nah... money doesn't matter in elections:


    Scott Walker Spent 88% of the Money to Get 53% of the Vote

    Walker's Republican campaign outspent Barrett's Democratic campaign by $30.5 million to $4 million -- that's a 7.5 to 1 advantage. Another way of saying this is that of the $34.5 million spent on their campaigns, Walker spend 88% of the money.

    Walker beat Barrett by 1,316,989 votes to 1,145,190 votes -- 53% to 46% (with 1% going to an independent candidate).

    Here's another way of saying that: Walker spent $23 for each vote he received, while Barrett spent only $3.47 per vote.


    Now to hear garbage spewed about how this election is a bellweather for November's elections. lol
    The total spending on both sides was about equal, when you add in outside groups. Both sides had the oppportunity for their message to get out. Voters just picked the message they liked best.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wonder what liberals are going to say using the money argument in supporting Obama this fall. His goal of raising a billion dollars is quite telling. Is Obama trying to buy the election like liberals claim Walker did in Wisconsin?
    Out-of-State Claims also Out-of-Whack

    The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel uses a similarly distorted review of spending from the past year. Its May 20 article, "Barrett, Walker have one thing in common: Out-of-state donors," sets up a false equivalency by suggesting that both Walker and Barrett are benefiting equally from out-of-state assistance.

    The article buries the key facts about what the title suggests the candidates have in common -- how much money each have received from out-of-state. It obscures the fact that donors outside Wisconsin gave Walker two-thirds of the $13 million he has raised since January 1 (and 57 percent of the $25 million raised since last year), versus Barrett receiving only 12 percent from out-of-state. Overall, Walker has raised 120 times as much money from outside the state as his opponent -- approximately $14.4 million for Walker versus only $120,000 for Barrett. That disparity can buy a lot of TV ad time.

    The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Dan Bice, whose investigative reports are usually reliable, in this story references the PACs We Are Wisconsin and Wisconsin for Falk as proof of out-of-staters helping Democrats, because those groups have received significant funding from national unions. Although the article and title imply that spending by these groups helped Barrett, both groups actually supported Falk in the primary.
    - Source: Center for Media and Democracy


    Here's the truth, if you want it. Read the entire article, if you want to be informed.










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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Not sure what this says about me, but I found this video absolutely hilarious. Poor Mike.

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