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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I did not realize I wrote 17 pages about Walker.

    Your computer screen must be radically different than mine.

    You do realize that there was more than one "game" in Wisconsin yesterday? That is a simple fact of reality.

    Read it more slowly this time...


    I said:

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    I have 17 pages of threads on Walker where you took part in,
    You took part in over 17 pages of threads on this subject...


    And yes, there was what, 6? you lost 5. so sad for you.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Using that term to define a guy with the biggest set of political balls I've seen in my lifetime is absurd. Walker's agenda was moved, seconded and carried by a surprisingly high margin. If you don't think Wisconsin Democratic legislators "got a message" from this victory, you would be 100% wrong. Don't try to turn this into a victory for liberals. It is not.

    It is a victory for taxpayers everywhere.
    short of walker being out on his ass, this is a big victory....wisconsin senate back in democratic control, walker is a EUNUCH....

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    good good good......make walker a eunuch for the rest of his term.....
    I'm sure this will be the intelligent thing to do going into an election year. After all, it's not like a majoirty of the state voted him back into office knowing full well the actions he's taken. Not like five out of the six individuals that were recalled didn't get voted back in, with 3 of the 4 senators winning by 14% or more. I'm sure capitalizing on a single victory after the year+ of hub bub over what Walker did to attempt and neuter him is definitely going to provide great dividens come election time and won't cause the Democrats to lose control back in the Senate.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No game needed to be changed. However, the game was played on two fields last night and only one was getting attention. The ignorati seemed obsessed with a single branch of government that they held onto while one which was in their tight little fist was lost to them.

    That is not changing the game - as you so inaccurately put it - it is merely showing both games that were played in Wisconsin last night.
    It's not that tight of a fist when you hold it by one seat.

    Also, how much were you talking about the Senate battle here on the site prior to today. How much were you talking about Walker? Look at those numbers and tell me what ground you have to stand on to lecture about people being "obssessed" with a single branch of government and insinuating they're ignorant for doing so.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    short of walker being out on his ass, this is a big victory....wisconsin senate back in democratic control, walker is a EUNUCH....


    So all the mouth foaming for a year over this recall, is suddenly not a big deal to the lunatic fringe left?



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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    short of walker being out on his ass, this is a big victory....wisconsin senate back in democratic control, walker is a EUNUCH....
    So short of the thing Democrat pundets, posters, supporters, unions, and politicians were focused on for months now...it's a big win!

    You sound like the New England Patriots patting themselves on the back for winning the AFC Championship game and trying to convince people the Super Bowl didn't matter.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    It's not that tight of a fist when you hold it by one seat.

    Also, how much were you talking about the Senate battle here on the site prior to today. How much were you talking about Walker? Look at those numbers and tell me what ground you have to stand on to lecture about people being "obssessed" with a single branch of government and insinuating they're ignorant for doing so.

    I did a search on keyword: Walker User: haymarket

    Results were 17 pages of results with threads on walker, that he took part in. I think that speaks for itself.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    If only I could blame you for the mind numbing instances of the Zimmerman case but alas it's just a poor attempt at satire. Sadly the satire is not much more transparent than your call for "peace". Having a mentality of giving out marching orders of dirty tactics and methods while putting a thin coat of protection that makes lip gloss look thick over top of it is a mentality, style, and tactic in a general sense....that's not saying those who do it are all criminal master minds ravaging the country side. It's just a methodology and mindset that I find troubling. How many other Democratic representitives might there be giving lengthy diatribes about how the Koch brother's should have violence against them and various people should be targetted followed by a short one off wink and nod at a desire for "peace".
    And do you also blame the weatherman for tropical storms, tornado's and other disasters because they told of the conditions which would create them?
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Don, I will not forget your initial post on this topic many months ago. You called Walker's actions a "scorched earth" policy. I agree with you. And, frankly? I'm surprised he held up. But. I'm grateful.
    It was a classic scorched earth battle. The key to consolidating one's gains is whether one can show concrete results afterward. Such results enable one to argue that the sacrifice was worth it. With Wisconsin's unemployment rate having fallen from 7.5% just before Governor Walker took office to 6.7% in April (latest available figure on a statewide basis) and the state having returned to a fiscal surplus, Governor Walker was in a good position to argue that there had been meaningful progress. He could also assert that the worst of the sacrifices were over (meaning less pain and fewer divisive political battles lie ahead). Even as his final margin of victory shrunk to 7 points (reflecting the margin by which voters supported his handling of job creation in the exit poll), it was an impressive win, especially considering the high voter turnout.

    In general, tough policies followed by evidence of concrete results can provide a political leader with a winning hand. One witnessed similar dynamics in the UK when Prime Minister Thatcher triumphed after defying the once powerful National Union of Mineworkers after that union had attempted to bring down the UK government with its heavy-handed tactics and a strike aimed at hurting British residents during what proved to be an unusually severe winter. Some two years after the NUM's strike had been shattered, Thatcher won a third term on account of a growing economy, falling unemployment rate, and low inflation (concrete results).

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I did a search on keyword: Walker User: haymarket

    Results were 17 pages of results with threads on walker, that he took part in. I think that speaks for itself.
    Actually it says precious little beyond a gross number that says nothing in and of itself about the content or details.
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