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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Right, manning up to your words, not for you.... Only one person here, really has brought up violence, and more than once, and that's you. Why is that?
    cognitive dissonance takes my bet.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No game needed to be changed. However, the game was played on two fields last night and only one was getting attention. The ignorati seemed obsessed with a single branch of government that they held onto while one which was in their tight little fist was lost to them.

    That is not changing the game - as you so inaccurately put it - it is merely showing both games that were played in Wisconsin last night.


    I have 17 pages of threads on Walker where you took part in, only today you seem to be harping the booby prize over what you obsessed over for months.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No I saw it... gonna answer the question or side step again.... your choice.
    You mean this 'question'?

    So if someone doesn't agree with you here, are they also racists for not buying into your assassination support?
    I took that as an over the top use of hyperbole and gross exaggeration in a lame attempt to be a wise guy.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I have 17 pages of threads on Walker where you took part in, only today you seem to be harping the booby prize over what you obsessed over for months.
    I did not realize I wrote 17 pages about Walker.

    Your computer screen must be radically different than mine.

    You do realize that there was more than one "game" in Wisconsin yesterday? That is a simple fact of reality.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    we shall see what the investigation turns up....we shall see....either way, if the dems win the senate, walker is a eunuch......

    Using that term to define a guy with the biggest set of political balls I've seen in my lifetime is absurd. Walker's agenda was moved, seconded and carried by a surprisingly high margin. If you don't think Wisconsin Democratic legislators "got a message" from this victory, you would be 100% wrong. Don't try to turn this into a victory for liberals. It is not.

    It is a victory for taxpayers everywhere.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You have found me out. You have pulled back the curtain and found the man pulling the levers of chaos.
    If only I could blame you for the mind numbing instances of the Zimmerman case but alas it's just a poor attempt at satire. Sadly the satire is not much more transparent than your call for "peace". Having a mentality of giving out marching orders of dirty tactics and methods while putting a thin coat of protection that makes lip gloss look thick over top of it is a mentality, style, and tactic in a general sense....that's not saying those who do it are all criminal master minds ravaging the country side. It's just a methodology and mindset that I find troubling. How many other Democratic representitives might there be giving lengthy diatribes about how the Koch brother's should have violence against them and various people should be targetted followed by a short one off wink and nod at a desire for "peace".

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I do not argue with some of your points. But you are missing others.

    Targets are chosen for many reasons - one being the opportunity and accessibility they present.
    We use a tool called a CARVER score.

    If one is not available, there are others.
    That is correct. While, for example, the Koch brothers themselves would be "hard" targets (they have inherent protective mechanisms built into the target system), unions would be relatively "soft" targets (they do not).

    As to paying a price, of course, that is part of the game is it not?
    You'll have to forgive me if I don't look at Public Unions Membership right now and see a large corps of people willing to engage in self-sacrifice.

    The suicide bombers have told us loud and clear that a very small number of people willing to pay that price can do a great deal of damage despite their obvious technological and formal training shortcomings compared to the dominant culture they target. 911 is but one example. I believe the people of New York City do not need to be reminded of that sad reality.
    9/11 is actually an excellent example for you to bring up. Which do you think has seen greater casualties and degradation of the target system - New York since 9/11? Or AQ - allied networks in the 11 years since?

    Just as you are describing, a bunch of angry semi-nihilist decided to vent their rage in an act of symbolic violence.... only to spend the next few years blowing up courtesy of US Veterans.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No doubt that in 1775 the exact same assessment of strengths could have been made regarding the colonies and the British army. No doubt the exact same assessment could have been made about the power of the US armed forces and the comparatively tiny Vietnamese insurgents in the early Sixties.

    I wonder why both turned out so differently then expected by those kind of traditional evaluations?
    Logistics and will. Quit posting stupid things.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    After last night's enormous victory for the taxpayers of Wisconsin, there's more Union busting to get to. To all the parasite public employee unions, the free-stuff gravy train is ending for you.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps you missed the split decision last night in your fervor to attack unions and their members?

    Yes, THE Republicans held onto the Governors office - one branch of the government. But it appears that Democrats gained in the State Senate and now are a majority. The day of total GOP control of state government and having their way at will is now over.

    Ding dong the wicked witch is dead.
    You should use words that actually apply to what occured.

    Ther was no "split decision" last night. There were Six recall elections going on in Wisconsin last night. Of those six, five of them were won by Republicans. There was no "Split Decision" regarding the votes last night.

    Now, the one loss results in the loss of the Senate...however, the fact that one seat swinging decides that fate, and the fact that Republicans won 5 out of 6 last night, indicates that the Democratic support in the state during the last election cycle set them up in a position to take it even if they lost massively with regards to the Recall effort....which, losing 5 out of 6 battles is pretty big.

    At best you can say that we have a split government in WI as a result. But there was no "split decision" concerning last night's races. On terms of recalling people and giving them "repercussions" for the attempts regarding the budgetary issues of the state....the people of Wisconsin supported five of the six individuals that Democrats tried to oust. That's not a split.

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