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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

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    Now an advocate for political assassination haymarket? So if someone doesn't agree with you here, are they also racists for not buying into your assassination support? Just curious....
    Apparently you missed the obvious GODFATHER reference?
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You seem to labor under the belief that a large armed force is necessary to get to someone.
    Not at all. I point out that training, numbers, and experience give invaluable edges in an urban guerrilla conflict.

    If history teaches us anything, it is that you can kill anyone.
    Certainly anyone can be killed. Even Presidents have been killed. However, doing so today would require not only a degree of training and access to resources that is not rare, but not a little bit of luck and the willingness to be killed in the attempt. That is why security forces exist, after all - to make the cost barrier too high and deter threats.

    What you cannot do however, is kill anyone without cost or retaliation. Which was the point of my post. If in a hypothetical angry union members were to go to war with the Kochs, the Kochs have the ability to protect themselves from Union attack while also having access to much better offensive capabilities than the unions. Your mental masturbation / kill fantasies run smack dab into two serious problems : 1. very few of your allies would actually have the guts and skill set to do it 2. many more of your opponents have the skill set and guts to retaliate in kind.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Even if they turn the Senate, I wouldn't worry too much. They have another election coming up. The only people on the ballot this time were recalls for republicans. I am suprised no one tried to put the democrats up after they refused to come to work or even enter the state for months during the union bargaining rights vote.
    Even the democrat that won (lehman, or something) will definetly be voted out in 2 years.

    Due to redistricting and the elections being run in the old districts, the district that he is now servicing voted against him. So, basically for nearly 100 million dollars, the unions rented a senator for 2 years - and one, if he follows his constituents will not be quite as firm with the democrats as Haymarket seems to believe.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    If you think the Dems are shell-shocked now, wait till November.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Dayum, I had no Idea there were 1,133,000 Union members in Wisconsin. No wonder the Unions are so strong there.
    And according to the University of Hawaii, there are 7.5x10^18 granules of sand in the world - no wonder everything is so.... sandy.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Apparently you missed the obvious GODFATHER reference?
    No I saw it... gonna answer the question or side step again.... your choice.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you really believe that when you attack worker rights and pass laws against them that there will be no repercussions from them?
    Walker: 53% . . . . . .Barrett: 46%

    Yep, with reperucussions like that it's no surprise you're "not" advocating that violence needs to occur.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not at all. I point out that training, numbers, and experience give invaluable edges in an urban guerrilla conflict.



    Certainly anyone can be killed. Even Presidents have been killed. However, doing so today would require not only a degree of training and access to resources that is not rare, but not a little bit of luck and the willingness to be killed in the attempt. That is why security forces exist, after all - to make the cost barrier too high and deter threats.

    What you cannot do however, is kill anyone without cost or retaliation. Which was the point of my post. If in a hypothetical angry union members were to go to war with the Kochs, the Kochs have the ability to protect themselves from Union attack while also having access to much better offensive capabilities than the unions. Your mental masturbation / kill fantasies run smack dab into two serious problems : 1. very few of your allies would actually have the guts and skill set to do it 2. many more of your opponents have the skill set and guts to retaliate in kind.
    I do not argue with some of your points. But you are missing others.

    Targets are chosen for many reasons - one being the opportunity and accessibility they present. If one is not available, there are others.

    As to paying a price, of course, that is part of the game is it not? The suicide bombers have told us loud and clear that a very small number of people willing to pay that price can do a great deal of damage despite their obvious technological and formal training shortcomings compared to the dominant culture they target. 911 is but one example. I believe the people of New York City do not need to be reminded of that sad reality.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Walker: 53% . . . . . .Barrett: 46%

    Yep, with reperucussions like that it's no surprise you're "not" advocating that violence needs to occur.
    The only surprise is why you continue to push a lie?

    On second thought, cross out the word SURPRISE.

    Do you also blame the weatherman for tropical storms?
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    ...The Walker radical agenda is dead. That is significant and that is a real win.
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    hmm, you infer that violence against your opposition would be a good thing, and Walker is the "Radical"?
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