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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Good, I hope all those scumbag Union activists get tossed out of their jobs. I heard one of the most parasitic unions-AFSCME (which does nothing useful-doesn't teach a trade, or guarantee good work like real trade unions do)-went from 65K members in that state down to 28K. Also I hope those scummy union pacs blew lots of money on this windmill tilting escapade that they no longer have to fund "Forward Failure" this fall
    I am one of those "scumbag union activists" and I hope you feel like a big man for saying that Mr.Turtledude...
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know, SheWolf. Being from Illinois and seeing how the Democrats have destroyed our state, it's hard to be objective. In Illinois, education is funded primarily via property taxes. My taxes? $4,900 a year for a 3-bedroom 2-bath 1200 square foot home; no family room; 1-car garage. Ask me if I think public sector unions need curtailing. Now. I can afford those taxes. Could you? Illinois' public pension crisis is destroying home ownership for the middle class. We are going bankrupt. And STILL the Democrats won't support significant reform.
    I used to live there, and a lot of my family still lives in Illinois. Where I live now, school taxes are not paid based on property tax but based on income tax. That means we have to file a yearly SD tax form. I have never really seen anybody owe 4,900 on SD income tax, but we still pay property taxes on top of everything. The only way to get out of SD tax is to live outside of a SD. Texas is also taxed based on property taxes, there are no state income states at all. If you live in Chicago, the property taxes and values are really high... moreso than the rest of the state. My cousin lives in a downtown apartment and pays a 5,000 parking fee to his property management co, just to park and use their parking garage.

    I am not sure exactly how the unions are to blame for your property taxes though. You're arguing the teachers need to be paid less, but I think the politicians in Illinois are more troublesome and cost the state more money than the teachers. There is no doubt the politicians waste money, and Blogovechic wasn't the first Illinois politician to get caught in scandal. My gran complains about many of them... one involving fake IDs or something like that. Illinois politics have a lot of problems, I don't think fighting public unions is going to fix the issue.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Thanks! Knew I could find latest breaking on DP. Good job. I hope it's true. Frankly? I am surprised. It means, I think, that the citizens of this country "get it." This is excellent news. There is hope.
    This election shows the "conservatives" just how much money they need to spend to win these elections.
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    Before the war is ended, the war party assumes the divine right to denounce and silence all opposition to war as unpatriotic and cowardly.
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    God, how patient are Thy poor! These corporations and masters of manipulation in finance heaping up great fortunes by a system of legalized extortion,
    and then exacting from the contributors--to whom a little means so much--a double share to guard the treasure!
    - Robert M. LaFollette, Wisconsin Governor and U.S. Senator

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Stil dumbfounded that in an election supposedly all about government union workers, Obama didn't bother to swing by oncefrom his neighboring home state.
    He smelled the flop-sweat.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think the point was more about MTP's comment asking how quick liberals come in with conspiracies. That's not just celebrating and jumping for joy, that's immedietely going out of your way to attack the other side.
    Interesting.... its the Cons that have perpetrated the Manchurian Candidate birther myth, that go on and on about the threat of voter fraud and somehow believe that Acorn was responsible for an Obama win.... and they suggest liberals buy into conspiracy theories?

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Interesting.... its the Cons that have perpetrated the Manchurian Candidate birther myth, that go on and on about the threat of voter fraud and somehow believe that Acorn was responsible for an Obama win.... and they suggest liberals buy into conspiracy theories?
    Yes, with the help of those Hillery Clinton "Cons" who created it in the first place.... And btw, I don't see it as buying into conspiracy theories, but more like making excuses, sour grapes and an inability to accept it when they lose at the polls.

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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    I am one of those "scumbag union activists" and I hope you feel like a big man for saying that Mr.Turtledude...
    When it comes to public unions...I agree with him. If you don't like it..well...to bad.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Congrats to Walker... sucks he might not be around long enough to enjoy it considering the federal investigation into corruption against him and his administration. Hope those 100k he moved to his legal defence fund will be enough to pay for his expensive lawyers to keep him out of jail.

    But it does seem the "tactics" of the GOP worked very well.. doing robocalls to tell people they dont have to vote if they signed the petition and blocking the Dems campaign phones.. classy really classy. Guess we know what to expect from Romney now.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Here is a long set of direction to make a bomb. Here is a long diatribe about who to use the bomb on. Oh...by the way, don't use bombs, peace is what's needed...

    Your mentality is so transparent I don't know which is more disconcerting...your view point or the slap-in-the-face obvious method of attempting to act like it's not your point of view
    You miss the point. ANd you substitute your own for one not of my making.

    America is a badly divided nation. And as the Pew Research study yesterday revealed, it is because the GOP has moved to the far right over the last few decades. Do you really believe there will be no fallout from this radicalization of the Republican Party?

    Do you really believe that when you attack worker rights and pass laws against them that there will be no repercussions from them?

    Do you really believe that you can get out the whips and drive the race to the bottom before them and at no point anyone will attempt to grab the whip from the hand of the overseer?

    My post was to remind you of that reality. Just as the Thirties gave us unrest and just as the Sixties gave us unrest, such things follow as day must follow night. It matters little if folks like you or I support it or advocate it or want it. The tide comes in just the same no matter if we encourage it or dig our heels into the sand and try with all our might to stop it.
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    Re: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker survives recall effort, NBC News projects

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wonder if you live in the right area you will hear shrieks, pistol shots and see people jumping off their roofs. Given the hysteria of some of the union parrots on this board, one would expect another Jim Jones type mass cyanide Koolaid party
    It sounds like you are hoping for just that. I strongly suspect that the fire next time will not be in ones own backyard.
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