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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    People can have predispositions to obesity. Not all people who are overweight have terrible health habits.

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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So it's not about health, but about how we can fine people. gotcha.
    Is he fining people for pot possession?
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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    You can take measures such as education. Let people choose how they want to live their lives.
    Well, that gets into other issues such, such as people who eat unhealthy food because it is cheaper. The United States subsidizes unhealthy food, and its cheaper, which is partly why we see obesity higher in poorer populations.

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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Well, that gets into other issues such, such as people who eat unhealthy food because it is cheaper. The United States subsidizes unhealthy food, and its cheaper, which is partly why we see obesity higher in poorer populations.
    Yes, that is a whole other can of worms.
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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Shouldn't they pay more for their health care?
    Of course. My point is, why should everybody pay more (and in more implicit ways than health care costs)?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Of course. My point is, why should everybody pay more (and in more implicit ways than health care costs)?
    I must have misread your statement then. No, everyone shouldn't pay for fatty. Agreed.
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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    People can have predispositions to obesity. Not all people who are overweight have terrible health habits.
    That the current proportion of obesity has diverged from its steady state is simply a matter of fact. 37.5% of the American population are not genetically predisposed to obesity; i would be shocked if it was greater than 1%.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I must have misread your statement then. No, everyone shouldn't pay for fatty. Agreed.
    How about U.S. companies who lose productivity because obese workers are more likely to need sick days due to health issues caused by obesity? Or how about we think in terms in opportunity costs: how many less surgeries will a surgeon be able to preform as more and more of his/her patients become obese?

    This is a topic in which many people miss the forest for the trees.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    How about U.S. companies who lose productivity because obese workers are more likely to need sick days due to health issues caused by obesity? Or how about we think in terms in opportunity costs: how many less surgeries will a surgeon be able to preform as more and more of his/her patients become obese?

    This is a topic in which many people miss the forest for the trees.
    There are all kinds of indirect costs. For example, higher fuel costs and the need for wider seats on airplanes, ever larger portion sizes at restaurants (even if you don't want a pound of food), etc.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    This ignores the spillover effect which forces associated with the majority of the population trajecting towards obesity. Even though you might not realize it, you will eventually be forced to bare the costs associated with an obese population.

    For example, obesity puts a $190 billion cost on health care, and continues to grow.

    So, then tax soda more?
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