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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The DREAM Act is an immigration reform bill, though not comprehensive. I thought Republicans were afraid of big, comprehensive reform bills, like Obamacare? Or does that just apply to health care reform for some reason?

    Given the current makeup of Congress, there is no way in hell that a comprehensive reform bill can pass. Whatever they come up with will be too lenient for Republicans and too harsh for Democrats. The only realistic possibility at this point is to do piecemeal legislation like the Dream Act.
    Horse****. The Dream Act is an appeasement act...similar to politicians naming a street after MLK and saying look at me...I did something about race relations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Horse****. The Dream Act is an appeasement act...similar to politicians naming a street after MLK and saying look at me...I did something about race relations.
    That may be the worst analogy ever.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That may be the worst analogy ever.
    Since the 'dream act' doesnt address illegal immigration reform and instead merely serves a bunch of politicians then I would say it was spot on. Of COURSE you dont like it. But then...when asked to provide this massive 'immigration reform' that you are touting, all you have is an appeasement act. And not even...hell...the Obama announcement legislatively is little different than saying he supports gay marriage. Yay...but...now what. Oh yeah...nothing. And the funny part is...it doesnt matter. He tugs...you dance.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Federal Judge to the DoJ: Kiss Florida's Ass

    Common sense, and the law, have prevailed in Florida. Florida can continue its purge of voting rolls. Now maybe the Obama DoJ and Obama Department of Homeland Security will act as though they support America, and the Law, instead of their continued assault on it.

    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – A judge on Wednesday rejected a request by federal authorities to block Florida's contentious move to remove potentially ineligible voters from its rolls.

    The decision could prompt some counties to revive efforts to identify registered voters who are not U.S. citizens. Many counties had suspended the effort after hearing about conflicting legal opinions.

    U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle ruled there was nothing in federal voting laws that prevent the state from identifying ineligible voters even if it is close to the upcoming Aug. 14 election.

    The U.S. Department of Justice filed a lawsuit earlier this month to halt the purge, saying federal voting laws barred the effort since it was within 90 days of a federal election. U.S. officials also said the list used by Florida had "critical imperfections, which lead to errors that harm and confuse voters."

    Hinkle in ruling from the bench said federal laws are designed to block states from removing eligible voters close to an election. He said they are not designed to block voters who should have never been allowed to cast ballots in the first place.

    Although he said "questioning someone's citizenship" is not a trivial matter, Hinkle also said that non-citizens should not be allowed to vote.

    "People need to know we are running an honest election," said Hinkle, who was appointed by former President Bill Clinton.



    Read more: Judge refuses to block Florida voter purge | Fox News

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Federal Judge to the DoJ: Kiss Florida's Ass

    Common sense, and the law, have prevailed in Florida. Florida can continue its purge of voting rolls. Now maybe the Obama DoJ and Obama Department of Homeland Security will act as though they support America, and the Law, instead of their continued assault on it.
    Bad decision, but it doesn't matter. Election officials aren't playing ball with the Governor.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Bad decision, but it doesn't matter. Election officials aren't playing ball with the Governor.
    If you read the article, you will see that many had stopped, awaiting a Court ruling, lest they waste time and money.

    They got their ruling. Back to cleaning up the books, and putting out the trash.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    If you read the article, you will see that many had stopped, awaiting a Court ruling, lest they waste time and money.

    They got their ruling. Back to cleaning up the books, and putting out the trash.

    Not quite. Only two counties have said they would continue the effort to purge their voter rolls- Lee and Collier. Most of the election supervisors said the lists they had received were so full of errors it would be foolish to use them.

    The decision wasn't quite as big a win as some would like to claim

    Judge Hinkle, who delivered his ruling from the bench, chastised the state as having handled the matter cavalierly.

    “Determining citizenship is not as easy as the state would have it,” Judge Hinkle said, according to The Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel. “Questioning someone’s citizenship isn’t as trivial as the state would have it.”
    The DoJ's suit against the state will continue.
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    If you read the article, you will see that many had stopped, awaiting a Court ruling, lest they waste time and money.

    They got their ruling. Back to cleaning up the books, and putting out the trash.
    If one is observant, they get an occasional glance into the right wing world. As we can see, it is a world that considers certain human beings "trash".

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