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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    To me voting is an imperative. Yes, valid citizens must be given ample opportunity to vote.... I also do not think it's a privilege, yet it must be a breathing, alive, human, citizen. Not dead goldfish... not the family dog... not dead Auntie Velma and not the four guest workers at the plant from Columbia.
    Yes, but anyway a person wants to slice it, voting is a privilege, if you are not a certain age you cannot vote. As I understand it, if you are convicted of certain crimes etc you cannot vote. If voting is a "Right" then the moment you are born you can vote.
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac, replying to Karl View Post
    Here is where you could have stopped your post and been at least half honest. The half that is honest is "Don't care".... And why? because it doesn't matter if it is legitimate or not. [...]
    LOL -- look at the pot calling the kettle black, folks. The FL voter purge is illegal due to timing, but the poster "doesn't care".

    Legitimate voters have been tasked to proving their legitimacy, far in excess of any illegally registered voters found, but the poster "doesn't care".

    Legitimate voters may well be discouraged to vote by the illegal (again, timing) nature of the FL purge, but the poster "doesn't care".

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now that would be a crazy world we live in today if protecting the integrity of the vote is against the law.... [...]
    Feigned obtuseness is always a dangerous debate tactic, since some may accept the act at face value.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    Which citizens have been deprived their right to vote in Florida by Gov Scott ? Can you name these people and who turned them away from the voting booth? Maybe which city they were turned away from ?
    Since the election has not yet been held, your argument is borne of hysteria.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    You have a link that this is what Florida is doing? I'd be interested in seeing this document. Thanks.
    It's in the previously linked articles where legal American citizens had to prove they were eligible to vote. I can't see how any American, regardless of their party or racial orientation, can see how it is a good thing to disenfranchise American citizens then tell them to prove they are eligible to vote. If this happened in Texas, we'd have a Governor hanging in the Capital lobby.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    It's in the previously linked articles where legal American citizens had to prove they were eligible to vote. I can't see how any American, regardless of their party or racial orientation, can see how it is a good thing to disenfranchise American citizens then tell them to prove they are eligible to vote. If this happened in Texas, we'd have a Governor hanging in the Capital lobby.

    In my state we have voter ID cards that we present when voting. When we register to vote the state mails the card. It has not caused any problems like "hanging chads, the dead voting, or ineligable voters to voting". And we all know for a fact that these things happen in the US.


    I see no problem with insuring that those who are voting are doing so legally.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yes, but anyway a person wants to slice it, voting is a privilege, if you are not a certain age you cannot vote. As I understand it, if you are convicted of certain crimes etc you cannot vote. If voting is a "Right" then the moment you are born you can vote.
    Using your criteria, the 2nd Amendment is a privilege, not a right.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    In my state we have voter ID cards that we present when voting. When we register to vote the state mails the card. It has not caused any problems like "hanging chads, the dead voting, or ineligable voters to voting". And we all know for a fact that these things happen in the US.


    I see no problem with insuring that those who are voting are doing so legally.
    Voter ID cards here. Unfortunately, they don't have pictures on them and are simply pieces of printed paper. I think we do have to present a picture ID, but I forget. As previously posted at least twice, I firmly support excising those ineligible to vote from the rolls and ensuring that only those eligible to vote are able to do so. Apparently the main disagreement is the willingness by some to disenfranchise American citizens in an effort to capture to ineligible to vote. IMO, this is wrong. Find a better method to clean the roster.
    Last edited by Rising Sun; 06-13-12 at 11:48 AM.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    In my state we have voter ID cards that we present when voting. When we register to vote the state mails the card. It has not caused any problems like "hanging chads, the dead voting, or ineligable voters to voting". And we all know for a fact that these things happen in the US. [...]
    And that has exactly what to do with the illegal FL purge?

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    At least it would be fair instead of targeting specific American citizen groups. Voter ID is better. There are problems with voter ID, but as long as the money was provided to fix those problems, it would be fair.
    Actually, Voter ID would be great, but I never see that happening. Far to many paranoids that would die rather then use a "Government ID".
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