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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Use of quote marks? Do you deny that Hispanics are ethnic minorities? And they represent 23% of Florida's population, yet they represent 58% of the purge. Yep, that's not racist.
    Yes, because I was mirroring YOUR terminology, so the quotes were appropriate. And again, since you don't appear to be all that connected to mathematics, what percentage of non-citizens residing in Florida are hispanic?That is the figure you should be applying the purge numbers to. Again, makes sense since the non-eligible for vote population in Florida is largely hispanic.

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    But go ahead, GOP. Keep wondering why the fastest ethic group in America is becoming more and more Democratic by the day.
    Give it time. Catering to that block will eventually tear the dems a new arsehole.
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You mean the same DoJ that stopped prosecution of NBP members wielding nightsticks outside a Philly voting place? Explain that DoJ?
    Already resorting to argumenta ad hominem?

    Probably because they are buying the lies of liberals about free stuff.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Use of quote marks? Do you deny that Hispanics are ethnic minorities? And they represent 23% of Florida's population, yet they represent 58% of the purge. Yep, that's not racist.
    Of course, because they are also the largest group of immigrants. This should be a no-brainer.

    There are basically 4 groups of "ineligable voters":

    1. Those to young to vote, a small minority.
    2. Those ineligable to vote due to personal misconduct (for example, some felons and those incarcerated or on probation/parole).
    3. Fraudulent registration, such as pets, dead people, etc.
    4. Illegal aliens or resident aliens.

    Granted, the numbers of 1-3 are less then half of those who are not eligable, which means that #4 is the biggest reason for purging them from the rosters. And I do not care if they are legal or illegal, European or Hispanic. If they are ineligable to vote, they should not be registered. Period.

    And trying to make it to be "Hispanics" instead of "aliens" is really pushing it. Stop playing the race card. Because there are tend of millions of "Hispanics" that are legally registered to vote in Florida.
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Of course, because they are also the largest group of immigrants. This should be a no-brainer.

    There are basically 4 groups of "ineligable voters":

    1. Those to young to vote, a small minority.
    2. Those ineligable to vote due to personal misconduct (for example, some felons and those incarcerated or on probation/parole).
    3. Fraudulent registration, such as pets, dead people, etc.
    4. Illegal aliens or resident aliens.

    Granted, the numbers of 1-3 are less then half of those who are not eligable, which means that #4 is the biggest reason for purging them from the rosters. And I do not care if they are legal or illegal, European or Hispanic. If they are ineligable to vote, they should not be registered. Period.

    And trying to make it to be "Hispanics" instead of "aliens" is really pushing it. Stop playing the race card. Because there are tend of millions of "Hispanics" that are legally registered to vote in Florida.
    Oh no. I'm not going to casually dismiss the race issue. YOUR side played the race card. YOUR side singled out two ethnicities (African-Americans being the other) that overwhelmingly voted Democratic. YOUR side needs to explain how this is any different than the Southern Strategy and other racist platforms in your past. This is all on YOU (plural).
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Oh no. I'm not going to casually dismiss the race issue. YOUR side played the race card. YOUR side singled out two ethnicities (African-Americans being the other) that overwhelmingly voted Democratic. YOUR side needs to explain how this is any different than the Southern Strategy and other racist platforms in your past. This is all on YOU (plural).
    Interesting, but when did this get to be about "sides"? And when were we to line up as to the side we wished to join? I thought it was a thread about purging voter roles of the non-eligible, using the case in Florida as a starting point.

    Does this mean your "side" wants to ignore the duty of the SOS to maintain the voter rolls? That your side wants to allow anyone to vote, eligible or not, as long as they vote your way?

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Florida defies federal government, will continue voter purge
    DAYTONA BEACH --

    Florida's top elections official is throwing allegations of law violations back at the federal government in a dispute over the state's efforts to purge non-citizen voters.

    Secretary of State Ken Detzner accused the Department of Homeland Security of violating federal law by refusing to give state election officials access to its alien verification database.

    Detzner also denied allegations by the Department of Justice that Florida's purge violates federal anti-discrimination and voter registration laws in a letter to the agency's voting section chief, T. Christian Herren.
    WAY TO GO FLORIDA !!!!
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That a nice turn you made, going from a "we can suppose" scenerio to this. Two things about this report - it's what's KNOWN thus far, and it does not say, or even guess how many dead voters were purged. How many of those dead also voted somehow after they were dead? How many of those asked for verification were actually non-ciitizens or not eligible to vote?
    There is no indication that anyone on the list was a dead voter -- speaking of nice turns!


    Don't know if you've ever worked with the elderly, the disadvantaged or the handicapped, but if you had, you'd know they require, they lean, a great deal on government services. There are, in communties across America and certainly throughout Florida, daily shuttles and transportation for those folks to government centers so they can do their business.

    If a person is bed-ridden, and the sort to want to continue the exercise of their vote, I guarantee they've already made arrangements for interfacing with the government, local, state and federal.

    Btw, what is the process for verification. You seem to have info I haven't seen posted. Is there a hearing?
    That's a gross over generalization. Someone might have help a few days a week, but that doesn't mean they have someone to drive them several hours to attend a hearing and/or represent them.
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

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    WAY TO GO FLORIDA !!!!
    Exactly! Every single election supervisor in the state has told Scott to **** off!
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Exactly! Every single election supervisor in the state has told Scott to **** off!
    You should try to comprehend the article before you post a reply ignorant of its content...
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    If most followed the modern conservative standards for racism, we'd believe the civil war wasn't about slavery, racial discrimination is a "states right" and the civil rights act of 1964 is a violation of property rights. As far as this Florida thing goes, it's blatantly clear Florida Republicans are afraid of losing again so they're targeting another minority which votes Democrat.
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