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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    [...] It just baffles me. It's like the right just doesn't even care whether there is actual factual evidence for things anymore. They just go off half cocked about everything and even when faced with the actual evidence, they are unphased.... Has the right just collapsed into a cesspool of the stupid or what?
    Ding-ding-ding -- we have a winner!

    Today's right relies on fear to implement their agenda. Fear that a black president is going to steal America. Fear that a Hispanic is going to steal your job. Fear that a Muslim is going to kill you. Fear that an illegal alien is going to steal your vote. Fear that a third world tin pot country is going to nuke us (that doesn't even possess nuclear weapons).

    They hope to use that fear to implement their brand of fascism. Any facts that may offset or invalidate that fear must be marginalized, dismissed, or attacked. The minions know that, and carry the flag of the wannabe oppressors accordingly.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac, replying to another View Post
    But of course same day registration at the polling place would never encourage fraud, Nooooooo...There is no way anyone could ever visit more than one polling place in a day....
    Since you have no evidence to support your fairy tale, then no, same day registration apparently does not encourage fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac, in closing View Post
    Nah, more like jerks on the left who like to call names, and make bogus claims raise suspicion.
    Didn't you just make a bogus claim in order to raise suspicion?

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    nah, more like jerks on the left who like to call names....

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Wow. Good thing we are on message boards.....Have a nice day


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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Detzner also accused the Dept. of Homeland Security of not giving Florida access to a federal database with citizenship information.

    “By denying Florida access to the SAVE database, DHS appears to have violated federal law, which provides that states may use the SAVE database ‘for any legal purpose such as … voter registration,’” the letter states.

    And, Detzner added, DHS is required to respond to any state’s request to check the citizenship or immigration status of any individual.

    “The federal Department of Homeland Security may, for months, violate federal law and deny Florida and other states access to the SAVE database so that the federal Department of Justice may then assert that the resulting delays in a state’s election-integrity efforts violate the time periods established in another federal law,” he wrote. “This hardly seems like an approach earnestly designed to protect the integrity of elections and to ensure that eligible voters have their votes counted.”


    Read more: Florida defies Justice Department on voter purge - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
    So let me see if I get this straight. Florida is going through its voter rolls to ensure voter eligibility. They want to double check this to ensure non-citizens aren't registered. Pretty common sense concept. This Admin has been screaming for two years that they're respnosible for immigration and maintain the "citizenship" list. Florida tries to access a federal database which is completely acceptible for lawful purposes, which verifying voters rolls surely is, and gets denied.

    Its pretty clear that this Admin does not want those not elligible purged from the list.

    But of course you don't hear about this all over the news. Just the WWII veteran that was mistakenly purged.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    So let me see if I get this straight. [...] But of course you don't hear about this all over the news. Just the WWII veteran that was mistakenly purged.
    Well, since the link you posted only gives the FL side of the story,
    and since the FL side of the story seems to be omitting some rather large facts,
    and since there are other news stories on the subject,
    and due to the fact that about 400 of 2600 people (15%) have been erroneously purged (not just one WWII veteran),
    that creaking sound you hear is a result of you being way, way out on a limb of misinformation and conjecture

    Read this then reflect: The Bizarre and Confusing Standoff Between Florida and DOJ Over Voter Purging | The Nation

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Let's not toss about conjecture - the WWII veteran was not purged. He received a notice that he would be in thirty days if he didn't respond with verification. And btw, since these articles have no problem telling us what percentages were this and that, what percentage of those notified were dead, felons or non-citizens?

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Well, since the link you posted only gives the FL side of the story,
    and since the FL side of the story seems to be omitting some rather large facts,
    and since there are other news stories on the subject,
    and due to the fact that about 400 of 2600 people (15%) have been erroneously purged (not just one WWII veteran),
    that creaking sound you hear is a result of you being way, way out on a limb of misinformation and conjecture

    Read this then reflect: The Bizarre and Confusing Standoff Between Florida and DOJ Over Voter Purging | The Nation
    You make no distinction from actually being purged and being flagged as needing more information to prevent being purged (audited), a big diference. Many more are audited by the IRS than are actually found to owe additional taxes. Florida, as any other state, must keep its records up to date, or they are useless. A voting system only works if it can assure that people vote only in their state/district of residence, that they are citizens, that they are not felons, are of legal age and that they vote only once and only as themselves, in any single election.
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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Another tidbit - the entire state of Florida is not under oversight by the DOJ under the VRA, certain counties within Florida are.

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    Re: Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And btw, since these articles have no problem telling us what percentages were this and that, what percentage of those notified were dead, felons or non-citizens?
    Graphic is in the The Nation link I posted. Check it out.

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