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    Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    "It reads like a riveting sci-fi novel, but it's stunningly real: A super-sophisticated malicious computer virus burrowed its way into Iran's nuclear facilities and took down several parts of the operation. Oh, and it apparently came from us.

    In 2010, it was the U.S. who launched Stuxnet, a seek-and-destroy cyber missile so sophisticated that some briefly thought it might have an other-than-earthly origin, against Iran's nuclear infrastructure, according to a New York Times report. The virus was, in fact, created jointly by the U.S. and Israel.

    In his first months in office, President Obama covertly ordered sophisticated attacks on the computers that ran Iran's nuclear facilities, upping U.S. use of cyber weaponry in a sustained attack, the newspaper said.

    Early on, a programming error allowed the worm to escape Iran's Natanz plant and whoosh around the world on the Internet.

    "Should we shut this thing down?" Obama asked, members of his national security team who were in the room told the paper.

    Ultimately, the super worm was left to wreak its havoc, and it took out 1,000 of 5,000 centrifuges Iran was using to enhance uranium, according to the report. It was as effective as a bomb or agents infiltrating country's nuclear facilities to plant explosives, the report said."

    Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says - latimes.com

    Could this be considered an overt act of cyber... war....

    What other implications....
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    If this is true the cyber attacks are clearly acts of war under the internationally accepted definition. When one commits an act of war it's usually advisable to expect a response from the other belligerent.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Stuxnet also Bush's fault. Originally activated under the code name Olympic Games.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    If this is true the cyber attacks are clearly acts of war under the internationally accepted definition. When one commits an act of war it's usually advisable to expect a response from the other belligerent.
    According to the article, "only recently has the government acknowledged developing cyber-weapons, though it has never admitted deploying them."

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    I'm conflicted about this. On one hand, if we can stop or slow down Iran's obvious race to obtain nuclear weapons without resorting to physical confrontation, I'm okay with that. On the other hand, I'm deeply concerned that these viruses we are introducing can be reverse-engineered and unleashed back on us.

    A scary world we live in.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    It's certainly a better option than high explosives.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Since the only thing damaged here was Iran's capability for producing nuclear weapons, I think I won't be shedding a lot of tears over this.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm conflicted about this. On one hand, if we can stop or slow down Iran's obvious race to obtain nuclear weapons without resorting to physical confrontation, I'm okay with that. On the other hand, I'm deeply concerned that these viruses we are introducing can be reverse-engineered and unleashed back on us.

    A scary world we live in.



    The program was reverse engineered in Culver City, California by a company called Symantec by their Threat Intelligence Team by a Frenchman named Nicolas Falliere. After much work on the project Stuxnet is called a one-shot weapon. "The attackers had to bet on the assumption that the victim had no clue about cybersecurity, and that no independent third party would successfully analyze the weapon and make results public early, thereby giving the victim a chance to defuse the weapon in time.
    How Digital Detectives Deciphered Stuxnet, the Most Menacing Malware in History | Threat Level | Wired.com

    It would appear that, while Stuxnet may show up again or as a redesigned virus, it is an open source virus these days.
    Stuxnet: Anatomy of a Computer Virus (The First Open-Source Weapon)

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    "It reads like a riveting sci-fi novel, but it's stunningly real: A super-sophisticated malicious computer virus burrowed its way into Iran's nuclear facilities and took down several parts of the operation. Oh, and it apparently came from us.

    In 2010, it was the U.S. who launched Stuxnet, a seek-and-destroy cyber missile so sophisticated that some briefly thought it might have an other-than-earthly origin, against Iran's nuclear infrastructure, according to a New York Times report. The virus was, in fact, created jointly by the U.S. and Israel.

    In his first months in office, President Obama covertly ordered sophisticated attacks on the computers that ran Iran's nuclear facilities, upping U.S. use of cyber weaponry in a sustained attack, the newspaper said.

    Early on, a programming error allowed the worm to escape Iran's Natanz plant and whoosh around the world on the Internet.

    "Should we shut this thing down?" Obama asked, members of his national security team who were in the room told the paper.

    Ultimately, the super worm was left to wreak its havoc, and it took out 1,000 of 5,000 centrifuges Iran was using to enhance uranium, according to the report. It was as effective as a bomb or agents infiltrating country's nuclear facilities to plant explosives, the report said."

    Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says - latimes.com

    Could this be considered an overt act of cyber... war....

    What other implications....
    Congratulations, USA!

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Since the only thing damaged here was Iran's capability for producing nuclear weapons, I think I won't be shedding a lot of tears over this.
    The problem is that if this did come from the US gov or even private entities specifically to attack a country in some capacity, then we can't exactly be outraged when some other country reciprocates in kind and attacks the USA.

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