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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So its ok to say Iran does bad things, but not ok to say that we do worse?
    Well you can rehash the treatment Native Americans, the internment of the Japanese during WWII, and slavery as well, just as most Europeans do.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not at all, I am saying I reject the policy of do as I say, not as I do.
    Nevertheless, they do ...I have provided examples several times.



    The downside I see here is that when we do something to others that we would not wish to have done to ourselves, we have no moral justification to claim foul when others do the same to us. Especially when our motives are for world hegemony rather than defense from actual physical threats.
    "Cry foul", is a diplomatic chip that is played to those who care. In the real world it is a race as to who can develop the latest, most sophisticated software that will cause the enemy a set back or best case scenario cause permanent harm to the development and use of weapons that would cause harm to the US.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Nevertheless, they do ...I have provided examples several times.
    And I will continue to protest against it as long as I am able.




    "Cry foul", is a diplomatic chip that is played to those who care. In the real world it is a race as to who can develop the latest, most sophisticated software that will cause the enemy a set back or best case scenario cause permanent harm to the development and use of weapons that would cause harm to the US.
    You have a different definition of morality than I do. I can only justify harm to others in defense of actual attack. I can't justify it for hegemony. Corporate profit by the 1% is just not that important to me.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And I will continue to protest against it as long as I am able.
    OK duly noted...






    You have a different definition of morality than I do. I can only justify harm to others in defense of actual attack. I can't justify it for hegemony. Corporate profit by the 1% is just not that important to me
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    Well, there are profits to be sure just as there are threats. For example, "with the May 23 negotiations in Iraq failing to persuade Iran to give up its illicit nuclear program, Iranian leaders have returned to threats of war including the provocative statement that their missiles can reach every U.S. military base in the Middle East, and a call to halt all nuclear negotiations with the West."

    Iran leaders hint at missile attacks against US bases | The Daily Caller

    Preparedness is the key, not waiting till people die. The virus effectively staved off a possible attack or development of nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Who cares about outrage, I want preparedness. The US has been under "attack" before, albeit, low tech in the form of espionage, sabotage, using aircraft as missiles flying into buildings etc. The virus was a very useful weapon against an entity that wants to blow us up.
    the iranians want to blow the USA up? never heard about that. got any sources?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the iranians want to blow the USA up? never heard about that. got any sources?
    I said "us", "Iranian leaders have returned to threats of war including the provocative statement that their missiles can reach every U.S. military base in the Middle East, and a call to halt all nuclear negotiations with the West."
    Iran leaders hint at missile attacks against US bases | The Daily Caller

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So what you are saying is this just another instance of the US policy, do as I say, not as I do? Nothing hypocritical about that eh?
    If hypocrisy were the biggest concerns for international actors, you would have completely redesigned the face of politics itself.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    OK duly noted...

    Well, there are profits to be sure just as there are threats. For example, "with the May 23 negotiations in Iraq failing to persuade Iran to give up its illicit nuclear program, Iranian leaders have returned to threats of war — including the provocative statement that their missiles can reach every U.S. military base in the Middle East, and a call to halt all nuclear negotiations with the West."

    Iran leaders hint at missile attacks against US bases | The Daily Caller
    Provocative statements from those that are not even close to the military might of the US don't frighten me. In the South we call that running your mouth with nothing to back it up.

    Preparedness is the key, not waiting till people die.
    That's the same ploy they used to sell the war against Iraq (one of the weakest countries on the planet at the time).

    I'm sure you have heard the expression, sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me.

    That is why I was not afraid of a fat old man with a shotgun in Iraq. And it is why I do not fear Iran.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If hypocrisy were the biggest concerns for international actors, you would have completely redesigned the face of politics itself.
    Call me old fashioned but I do not see hypocrisy as something to embrace.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I said "us", "Iranian leaders have returned to threats of war including the provocative statement that their missiles can reach every U.S. military base in the Middle East, and a call to halt all nuclear negotiations with the West."
    Iran leaders hint at missile attacks against US bases | The Daily Caller
    let's take another look at YOUR exact words:
    the virus was a very useful weapon against an entity that wants to blow us up.
    now you want to dance
    it is "us", not USA, you insist without sharing with us just who "us" is, since it now appears that you insist iran is refereing to others and not just the USA

    and when you said "an entity" that wants to blow us up, i am assuming you mean iran. correct me if i have it wrong
    and no where have you shown us the cite which proves the iranians want "to blow us up"

    there is no need to embellish the truth in these discussions
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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