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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Like the bang up job we did with Iraq?
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    USA no longer has the financial ability to babysit the entire world. Recall the argument for the Iraq war was via threat assessment and protection. How did that work out? Do you seriously think anyone is dumb enough to believe that Iran having nukes is somehow more dangerous than China or Pakistan?
    This thread is about a computer virus which did in fact delay the nuclear missile program of a country that has threatened the US. This has proven to be successful and much more economical than conventional warfare.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Is that a serious question? You're asking why we should be concerned if a country that supplies Islamic terrorists with weapons all over the world should suddenly possess nuclear weapons? What planet do you live on?
    We supply more weapons to more people around the world.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, we wouldn't. They stormed our embassy and held hundreds of our fellow citizens hostage for a year and a half and we didn't consider that an act of war.
    Actually, we would

    The Pentagon's first formal cyber strategy, unclassified portions of which are expected to become public next month, represents an early attempt to grapple with a changing world in which a hacker could pose as significant a threat to U.S. nuclear reactors, subways or pipelines as a hostile country's military.

    In part, the Pentagon intends its plan as a warning to potential adversaries of the consequences of attacking the U.S. in this way. "If you shut down our power grid, maybe we will put a missile down one of your smokestacks," said a military official.
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This thread is about a computer virus which did in fact delay the nuclear missile program of a country that has threatened the US. This has proven to be successful and much more economical than conventional warfare.
    Then you consider this a legitimate tactic for countries to use against one another?
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Then you consider this a legitimate tactic for countries to use against one another?
    This has been used on the US and the US apparently has used this on a foreign country. So by the conduct of all parties, by default, I must accept that cyberwar tactics are custom as much as spying on one another is custom, for example.

    Recent attacks on the Pentagon's own systems—as well as the sabotaging of Iran's nuclear program via the Stuxnet computer worm—have given new urgency to U.S. efforts to develop a more formalized approach to cyber attacks. A key moment occurred in 2008, when at least one U.S. military computer system was penetrated. This weekend Lockheed Martin, a major military contractor, acknowledged that it had been the victim of an infiltration, while playing down its impact.
    Pentagon: Online Cyber Attacks Can Count as Acts of War
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This has been used on the US and the US apparently has used this on a foreign country. So by the conduct of all parties, by default, I must accept that cyberwar tactics are custom as much as spying on one another is custom, for example.



    Pentagon: Online Cyber Attacks Can Count as Acts of War


    So what you are saying is this just another instance of the US policy, do as I say, not as I do? Nothing hypocritical about that eh?
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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, we wouldn't. They stormed our embassy and held hundreds of our fellow citizens hostage for a year and a half and we didn't consider that an act of war.


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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I love the quote function:Libya was a NATO mission don't ya know?
    Of course I do.

    Do you think everything has to be a NATO exercise or approved by them?

    Really. Is that what you were led to believe?

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    So has the US declared war on Iran?

    If so, they should be finished off quickly.

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    Re: Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Of course I do.

    Do you think everything has to be a NATO exercise or approved by them?

    Really. Is that what you were led to believe?
    It does for the leaders I consider voting for. I've had enough of the US unilaterally committing our troops and financial resources for simultaneous optional decade long wars.
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