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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    Nope, sorry your not winning this battle.
    In fact, he pretty much loses at everything. That's what happens when you believe idiotic things.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    homosexuality is no less immoral than say, wanting to kill everyone who is a member of an opposing political party.
    ummmm. Hell yes homosexuality is far less immoral than wanting to kill people.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    ummmm. Hell yes homosexuality is far less immoral than wanting to kill people.
    Homosexuality not immoral in any actual sense of the word, killing people who simply disagree with you is immoral in every sense of the word.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    DOMA and other bans against SSM violate the 14th amendment. So there.
    So do title 9 (separte but equal?), different age limits for taxation, voting, drinking & 2nd amemdment rights and affirmative action (race based preference?) laws. A lot of unequal treatment exists in law yet has been held constituional.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    Homosexuality not immoral in any actual sense of the word, killing people who simply disagree with you is immoral in every sense of the word.
    that is my point.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    So do title 9 (separte but equal?), different age limits for taxation, voting, drinking & 2nd amemdment rights and affirmative action (race based preference?) laws. A lot of unequal treatment exists in law yet has been held constituional.
    There has to be a provable state interest in order to discriminate, there is no such interest with regards to SSM.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    ummmm. Hell yes homosexuality is far less immoral than wanting to kill people.
    i misspoke. sorry about that.

    I meant its far less immoral than wanting to kill people of an opposing political party.

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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    That's fine. I learned long ago that the opinions of the majority of Americans should be rejected out of hand due to their incompetence and lack of understanding.



    On that we will have to severely disagree.



    Not hypocrisy at all. I believe that the Constitution creates a certain set of rules. There are only two ways to change those rules..... 1. Amend the document. or 2. Replace the entire document. My problem is with people who believe that the document is "flexible" and can or should just be ignored when it's inconvenient for them. Personally, I believe that the original document was flawed because it was too vague and allowed itself to be modified at all. My idea is to correct that vaguery and ensure it is not polluted or distorted by removing the ability to modify the document afterwards.
    What? The amendment process is a very good thing, otherwise we would still have slavery, no women's vote and no right to bear arms.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So do title 9 (separte but equal?), different age limits for taxation, voting, drinking & 2nd amemdment rights and affirmative action (race based preference?) laws. A lot of unequal treatment exists in law yet has been held constituional.
    The constitution does not prevent all discrimination. It prevents discrimination without a compelling reason. Bigotry has failed time and again to be a compelling reason. Keeping children from crashing cars has. Lawmakers can discriminate all they like, completely constitutionally, so long as they can provide a compelling reason for doing so. In the case of something like SSM, no such compelling reason has been offered.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    Homosexuality not immoral in any actual sense of the word
    Not necessarily since morality is subjective.

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