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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    Well since legal same sex marriage doesn't violate any of those things you mentioned , what's the problem?
    I suppose the problem is that proponents haven't yet convinced enough people in most states to pass it into law. They were making good progress in winning public opinion, but seem to have put the car in reverse when the emphasis shifted from convincing their communities to convincing the courts.

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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    Neither of which would preclude a state interest in reproduction.
    The state has an "interest" in reproduction? What evidence do you have that would remotely suggest this?
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    The state has an "interest" in reproduction? What evidence do you have that would remotely suggest this?

    How about social security, which was based on the reproduction rates at the time of inception?

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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    I was not aware of such a case, and besides all you have to do is look at the date and know what the decision is there if such a case exists.

    And yes Loving v Virginia does set precedent for SSM, it sets marriage as a fundamental right, and all you have to do is change race to gender and you have the 14th case locked up.
    The part about "just changing race to gender" is why it fails. With respect to marriage, race is nothing but a surface characteristic. The same cannot be said of SSM - such relationships are more consequential to a marriage concept. This is not to say one way or the other whether SSM is deserving of Constitutional protection - just that those protections cannot be rationally deduced from Loving.

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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The part about "just changing race to gender" is why it fails. With respect to marriage, race is nothing but a surface characteristic. The same cannot be said of SSM - such relationships are more consequential to a marriage concept. This is not to say one way or the other whether SSM is deserving of Constitutional protection - just that those protections cannot be rationally deduced from Loving.
    I would say it is nothing but a surface characteristic. You have two people who love each other, and want to make each other their family. There is no important difference between SSM, and opposite sex marriage.
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

    Eh...Let em get married....Employ a down on their luck divorce lawyer...They need the help....


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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    Neither of which would preclude a state interest in reproduction.
    But that would mean...changing the definition of marriage...
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    Re: Court: Heart of gay marriage law unconstitutional

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    I suppose the problem is that proponents haven't yet convinced enough people in most states to pass it into law. They were making good progress in winning public opinion, but seem to have put the car in reverse when the emphasis shifted from convincing their communities to convincing the courts.
    Ok, try and keep up: this is a court case, not a vote.
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