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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    He shouldn't have just banned 32oz drinks. How does one expect that to make any difference when people can use free refills or buy two 16oz drinks?

    Instead of only partially fixing the problem he should build on this law.
    Since the first two times I explained it haven't sunk in, I'll explain it a third time in the hope that "Third times a chime"

    Many of these restaurants bundle 32oz drinks in a meal that is discounted. With this ban, people will no longer be able to get the 32oz drink at the discounted price. If they want 32oz's of drink, they will have to buy an additional 16oz drink at the full price. While some people may do this, common sense suggests that some won't. This means that less of these sugary beverages will be consumed.

    That's the difference
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    He shouldn't have just banned 32oz drinks. How does one expect that to make any difference when people can use free refills or buy two 16oz drinks?

    Instead of only partially fixing the problem he should build on this law.
    Perhaps he could legalize pot, and then send the pot cops to make sure people don't consume too many calories.

    Pot, after all, has no calories at all.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Perhaps he could legalize pot, and then send the pot cops to make sure people don't consume too many calories.

    Pot, after all, has no calories at all.
    LOL, yeah, the two measures really don't seem to work well together do they. You can get baked but you can't buy a Big Gulp.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Since the first two times I explained it haven't sunk in, I'll explain it a third time in the hope that "Third times a chime"

    Many of these restaurants bundle 32oz drinks in a meal that is discounted. With this ban, people will no longer be able to get the 32oz drink at the discounted price. If they want 32oz's of drink, they will have to buy an additional 16oz drink at the full price. While some people may do this, common sense suggests that some won't. This means that less of these sugary beverages will be consumed.

    That's the difference
    I dunno, why not just leave them alone and let them buy whatever the hell they want, instead of trying to create an out of control nanny state?

    Now, that would be common sense.

    Seems to me that common sense would dictate that New York--city and state--has bigger things to worry about than whether, or not, someone has a large Coke with their junk food. These laws are the most assinine in the history of mankind.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Perhaps he could legalize pot, and then send the pot cops to make sure people don't consume too many calories.

    Pot, after all, has no calories at all.
    It just has carcinogens, oh well...the nanny staters don't like smoking, either. Dammit!!!!
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    He shouldn't have just banned 32oz drinks. How does one expect that to make any difference when people can use free refills or buy two 16oz drinks?

    Instead of only partially fixing the problem he should build on this law.
    Why do you think he knows what is better for you than you do? If this keeps up we won't have any personal choice left.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Smoking went down.... to a point. There are still LOTS of people who smoke. Many have gone to roll-your-own, or cigars or pipes which are not as heavily taxed yet. Those who were going to quit over price mostly already have. Those who remain aren't likely to quit, but simply engage in tax-avoidance behaviors like rolling your own cigs at 1/3rd the price. Tax that and they'll find another way around it.

    I've noticed a lot more young people smoking in recent years than was the case about a decade ago... wonder if it has anything to do with the societal demonization of tobacco, leading it to be one of those "alluring taboo" items.


    Bottom line... it isn't government's business to make healthy decisions FOR me. If it were, they'd send me a menu every week and tell me that was what I had to eat. You want that?
    Also of note, the states, typically blue ones that love all the sin taxes such as NY are among the states which are broke. They thought they were clever and could bring in huge revenue but ended up hurting themselves twice. So few smoke the taxed cigs plus the loss of revenue from convenient stores that make less money due to the loss of sale of cigs which were once one of their biggest selling items. The higher NY taxes its people, the less money it has.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    Also of note, the states, typically blue ones that love all the sin taxes such as NY are among the states which are broke. They thought they were clever and could bring in huge revenue but ended up hurting themselves twice. So few smoke the taxed cigs plus the loss of revenue from convenient stores that make less money due to the loss of sale of cigs which were once one of their biggest selling items. The higher NY taxes its people, the less money it has.
    Note that many red states are also in financial straits, and NYS is far from broke.

    ANd cigarettes have never been a major source of revenue for convenience stores.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Which brings up a point I'm sure the nannies in NY haven't considered. By asserting that government has the right to ban what they consider self-destructive behavior, it opens the door for insurance companies to do the same. New form letter: "We're sorry Mr Johnson, but we are declining to cover your recent bypass operation. It has come to our attention that you regularly consume Ring Dings as a dessert and we have determined these are bad for your heart and that you contributed significantly to your heart problem by your eating habits. [see Section 400c of your policy fine print clause]".

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Which brings up a point I'm sure the nannies in NY haven't considered. By asserting that government has the right to ban what they consider self-destructive behavior, it opens the door for insurance companies to do the same. New form letter: "We're sorry Mr Johnson, but we are declining to cover your recent bypass operation. It has come to our attention that you regularly consume Ring Dings as a dessert and we have determined these are bad for your heart and that you contributed significantly to your heart problem by your eating habits. [see Section 400c of your policy fine print clause]".
    Nothing is being banned

    Why don't read the article and learn the facts?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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