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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

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    I don't think it has anything to do with the taxes, though.
    Yes and no. I don't think having to pay the tax convinced many nicotine addicts to stop smoking. Nor did it stop foolish teens from starting to smoke in order to be cool. However, the money was used by the govt to fund anti-smoking campaigns which did have an effect, so in a roundabout way, the taxes were a big factor
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes and no. I don't think having to pay the tax convinced many nicotine addicts to stop smoking. Nor did it stop foolish teens from starting to smoke in order to be cool. However, the money was used by the govt to fund anti-smoking campaigns which did have an effect, so in a roundabout way, the taxes were a big factor
    Most of the taxes imposed are local taxes, very little of which goes toward anti-smoking campaigns.

    I think the biggest factor was the major crackdown on sales to underage smokers.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Just another reason why New York is worst the Major City in the USA.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Most of the taxes imposed are local taxes, very little of which goes toward anti-smoking campaigns.

    I think the biggest factor was the major crackdown on sales to underage smokers.
    Well, we could probably quibble about this for ages, and never come to a firm conclusion because it can't be scientifically proven either way. We'll just have to agree to disagree
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

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    Just another reason why New York is worst the Major City in the USA.
    Yes, our higher incomes, standard of living, the best educational and cultural institutions in the world, and low crime rates are just horrible to endure
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Well, we could probably quibble about this for ages, and never come to a firm conclusion because it can't be scientifically proven either way. We'll just have to agree to disagree
    Actually, we might be able to find some correlations to tax rates and rates of smoking across multiple regions with different tax rates. I'm feeling too lazy right now to look for these studies, though.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Well, we could probably quibble about this for ages, and never come to a firm conclusion because it can't be scientifically proven either way. We'll just have to agree to disagree
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    Actually, we might be able to find some correlations to tax rates and rates of smoking across multiple regions with different tax rates. I'm feeling too lazy right now to look for these studies, though.
    I just did a cursory search on this and it seems that the states with teh highest taxes do tend to have the lowest rates of smoking and those with the lowest taxes tend to have the highest rates of smoking. So I stand corrected on that.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Actually, we might be able to find some correlations to tax rates and rates of smoking across multiple regions with different tax rates. I'm feeling too lazy right now to look for these studies, though.
    Fair enough, but correlation <> causation
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Fair enough, but correlation <> causation
    True, but it does imply a relationship, meaning that further investigation would be required.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, our higher incomes, standard of living, the best educational and cultural institutions in the world, and low crime rates are just horrible to endure
    Crime rates jumped up for NY. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/us/24crime.html

    Best Educational and cultural in the world is opinion.

    Your higher income is offset by a higher tax rate.

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