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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    When you do that, you're making a choice for the little girl as well.
    How dare she or anyone else limit my liberty!!

    You should have the liberty to make your own choices as long as those choices don't impinge on someone else. Drink a barrel of soda every day, get fat, live with the results of your actions. Assault a child, you've hurt the child by your actions, and that's wrong.
    When those people get diabetes, heart disease, etc, it does impinge on others
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    Hmm.. what I find odd is that when I watched this on FOX news last week, the women were throwing a tizzy over government intrusion on their 44oz soda, but they have no problem with government intrusion on marriage and a woman's body.

    Wtf?! :: scratches head ::



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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's right!! If I choose to rape a little girl, why do we need the govt to step in and stop me?

    And people who think realize that the mayor doesn't make the law


    Why would that be your first thought of an example?


    Your extremist logic is quite extreme.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    How dare she or anyone else limit my liberty!!



    When those people get diabetes, heart disease, etc, it does impinge on others



    I think you get it. but letting on that you do spoils your fun.... You have the right, or should have the right to do what you want as long as it does not intefere with the rights of others. Raping little girls, (your strange example), infringes on that little girls right, and therefore it is not your right to rape her.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think you get it. but letting on that you do spoils your fun.... You have the right, or should have the right to do what you want as long as it does not intefere with the rights of others. Raping little girls, (your strange example), infringes on that little girls right, and therefore it is not your right to rape her.

    Simple really.

    People have a right to vote to have certain morality-based legislation passed in their local region so that people who live that that region conform to the norms defined by that legislation so long as that legislation does not violate the basic human rights of anyone living in that region.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think you get it. but letting on that you do spoils your fun.... You have the right, or should have the right to do what you want as long as it does not intefere with the rights of others. Raping little girls, (your strange example), infringes on that little girls right, and therefore it is not your right to rape her.

    Simple really.
    I get it, but I'm not sure you do

    Loony libertarians have argued, in this thread, that limiting liberty is a bad thing. They did not qualify it as you just did
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    How dare she or anyone else limit my liberty!!



    When those people get diabetes, heart disease, etc, it does impinge on others
    There you do have a point, as long as the public is paying for their health care in one way or another.

    Solution: Make fat people pay more for health insurance, then create a pool of money to be used when other fat people get diabetes and so one. Not all overweight are going to get those diseases, but, that way people who make poor choices will be paying for their own poor choices.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    I like the law, but it's incomplete.

    People can still get free refills and buy 2 16oz drinks.

    Maybe taxation would be a more efficient and profitable route.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I get it, but I'm not sure you do

    Loony libertarians have argued, in this thread, that limiting liberty is a bad thing. They did not qualify it as you just did


    Probably because, it's not the libertarians who are "looney", but the individual, who for some reason, didn't get what the libertarian was talking about when he discussed liberty...



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    personal liberty 
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    the liberty of an individual to do his or her will freely except for those restraints imposed by law to safeguard the physical, moral, political, and economic welfare of others.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There you do have a point, as long as the public is paying for their health care in one way or another.

    Solution: Make fat people pay more for health insurance, then create a pool of money to be used when other fat people get diabetes and so one. Not all overweight are going to get those diseases, but, that way people who make poor choices will be paying for their own poor choices.
    You have an odd understanding of what insurance is

    True, overweight people are at a higher risk, but insurance is meant to spread and equalize the costs.

    But either way, it seems we can can agree a few things

    1) Limiting liberty is not inherently wrong
    2) Limiting liberty is a legitimate function of govt (depending on the circumstances)
    3) Limiting choice is not inherently wrong and is a legitimate govt function (again, depending on the circumstances)
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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