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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Not really, second hand smoke causes harm to others. You have a right to **** up your own body, but please do not **** up mine.
    No offense Your Star but if you go to a restaruant that is known to be a smoking establishment then it is your fault for choosing to go to that place. You do not have a right to enter into any private buisness.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no, your right to do something stops when it intrudes on my rights
    your lighting up in a public space while others object to being subjected to second hand smoke steps on the others' rights not to be intruded upon
    And this is where you go wrong. A privately owned buisness is not a public space. It is a private space in which the owner allows the public to come in.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    This is a band-aid. Yes, there needs to be less empty calories consumed by Americans -- all Americans. Yes, what we drink is a great first target, but we drink what we do because the federal government subsidizes the production of corn to an insane degree. Apart from the harm this does to the environment and our economy, it harms us because due to the overabundance of corn this creates so much is used to create sweeteners that have little value for us but create massive profits for the food industry and for Big Agriculture.

    What we SHOULD be subsidizing is the production of fruits and vegetables, especially locally. If a state wants to alter the behavior of its citizens regarding food, there are far better (as in more cost-effective and successful) ways to do this.

    Prohibiting the sale of these large servings is skipping all the steps in between that would genuinely alter behavior, and going right for the Big Daddy Government approach that is doomed to fail.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No offense Your Star but if you go to a restaruant that is known to be a smoking establishment then it is your fault for choosing to go to that place. You do not have a right to enter into any private buisness.
    I should be able to go to Red Lobster with my family without having to worry about the damage someone across the room is doing to my lungs with their smoke. People do not have the right to harm my health with their bad habit.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why not? You're in North Texas, right, so how does this ban affect you?
    It doesn't...yet. But how long before some idiot in my state tries to do the same thing? In order to prevent that I have a right and an obligation to cry out about it now...before it comes this way.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No offense Your Star but if you go to a restaruant that is known to be a smoking establishment then it is your fault for choosing to go to that place. You do not have a right to enter into any private buisness.
    We all have a right to enter any private business that serves food or offers transport or overnight accommodations to the public. We all have a right to enter almost all other businesses open to the public -- the only exceptions I can think of are age restrictions for places like bars and topless dance clubs that do not serve alcohol.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I should be able to go to Red Lobster with my family without having to worry about the damage someone across the room is doing to my lungs with their smoke. People do not have the right to harm my health with their bad habit.
    Let's do this debate on another thread, k?

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    People will just buy two 16oz drinks...
    More refuse for the landfills.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

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    and yet, millions of tourists come here every year from everywhere.

    I bet even you've been here a few times, or have relatives who have visited or even moved here.

    Everyone loves to bash us, but they still love us.
    If bloomberg keeps this crap up no one will want to visit your crappy city. I know for a fact that I never will.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I should be able to go to Red Lobster with my family without having to worry about the damage someone across the room is doing to my lungs with their smoke. People do not have the right to harm my health with their bad habit.
    Whether you should be able to go to that privately owned buisness and whether you have the right to go to that privately owned buisness are two very different things. Not to mention one is based on opinion.

    I mean seriously...do you even own stock in the Red Lobster franchise? Must less in that privately owned building?
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