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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Bloombergs NYC...what morons...oh you cant buy a 20 ounce drink only a 16...ok gimme two 16s and ill put them in my own 40 ounce cup...
    this law won't pass.

    its stupid, authoritarian, and is an example of Bloombergian over-reach.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yes, it did. although caffeine seems to be a better option for a cola stimulant, when considering that children often consume the beverage.

    thought it was kind of a neat sign from a bygone era, though.
    It was.

    Is cocaine, the amount that was in the original Coca Cola, really more habit forming than the caffeine that is there now? Just wondering.

    and how is it that the government gets to decide anyway? Isn't outlawing cocaine in Coke really any different from telling people that they can't buy the extra large size?

    Cocaine may not be a good idea, and probably neither is pot. Drinking a quart of sugared soft drink at a sitting is a bad idea for most of us as well. But the real question is, who gets to decide?

    Government needs to butt out of personal decisions, IMO.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Why?
    Especially when the passage of such laws were and are pushed by the big bad insurance companies.
    You're strongest argument against helmet safety laws is that big bad insurance companies are for them? Especially in the case of motorcycle safety, I believe it's imperative that riders be held to a certain standard to avoid costly time in the emergency room. Driving or riding is a privilege, not a right.

    if the government wants to require information to be placed on the soda containers to inform the public what they are consuming, not a problem
    if the government wants to prohibit a person from buying something that has the potential to harm no one but themselves, that is nanny state intrusion
    The government bans the sale of cigarettes, with warnings and all, to minors. I feel that even more than the current ban, perhaps that would be the right move.

    Secondly, was it nanny state intrusion when New York state told the owners of bars, restaurants, and pretty much anywhere with a public area other than cigar stores that people weren't allowed to smoke in them? Perhaps, but a most excellent move nonetheless.

    It is so scary that some don't want to take personal responsibility but want the govt to regulate their lives. Good grief.
    Here is what I see happening. People will purchase a 16oz dring at a fast food place because the larger size is not an option. They will consume it, go up and refill it.
    I got a better idea, hold people accountable for their own actions. I don't need the govt trying limit what I do.
    The government does hold them to their actions, when we pay for medicare bills inflated by complications due to obesity. Or when we deal with the effects of bankruptcy due to medical bills.

    Secondly, the government "limits what you can do" all the time with things like speed limits or BAC thresholds in terms of drinking and driving (another example of government crackdown that has led to the fewest deaths on the road since the Truman administration by the way. Coupled with stricter government safety standards of course). These are just a few examples of course.

    So when the hard tyranny comes as opposed to this soft tyranny, you'll be all for it right?
    No.

    So do ad campaigns, post calories, even a warning label I don't care, but I don't need government to do something stupid like this....Tell me, what prohibits me from buying 2 16oz. sodas? Anything?
    No.

    Why can't they just live their own life and leave everyone else around them alone?
    It seems odd to me that someone who lives in one of the most polluted parts of California would be so critical of public health measures.

    LOL - the industries love it though . . . the price per measureable quantity goes up the smaller and more convenient the packaging is: no 2-liters? No 1-liters . . . profits soaring.

    They must be fostering this effort. LOL . . . oh: and nevermind the landfills, yeah - nevermind the going-green and reducing packaging waste!

    It won't remotely make a damned different - if I couldn't buy Dr Pepper in a large bottle I'd buy it in smaller bottles and can Whoopidee ****ing do. (in fact: I actually consume more when I have cans in the house - I consume less if I have to pour it into a glass to drink it (2 / 3-liters are more annoying, honestly) . . .and the ease of being able to get a small bottle and take it with me raises my consumption of it . . . os I don't buy cans and small bottles of it purely for this reason.
    2 and 1 liters will still be available. The law would only affect places like restaurants, movie theaters, and stands from what I'm aware of.

    Bloombergs NYC...what morons...oh you cant buy a 20 ounce drink only a 16...ok gimme two 16s and ill put them in my own 40 ounce cup...
    Jesus Christ when did NYC become such a punching bag and butt of jokes that need no buildup?

    As if the joke can merely be shortened to "God NYC what morons...geez greatest city in the world and trendsetter in fashion and culture what a joke"

    this law won't pass.

    its stupid, authoritarian, and is an example of Bloombergian over-reach.
    Probably not, but Mr Bloomberg cannot in any way be faulted for attempting to keep NYC on the cutting edge and prepared for a future with a city that's safer, more walkable, healthier, and frankly more and more prepared to remain a world class city.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    It's all a load of bull****. Think people, think.

    Calories in a New York bagel with cream cheese - 436

    Calories in a 32 oz. bottle of Coke - 310

    Let's watch Bloomberg tell New Yorkers, "Smaller bagels only and no cream cheese allowed."










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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    this law won't pass.

    its stupid, authoritarian, and is an example of Bloombergian over-reach.

    Really, WOW I agree with thunder lol...its an absurd law...why pass a law thats unenforceable and so damn easy to get around...whats he going to have cops checking soda ounces in cups...

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    Bloomberg has GOT to go. If anyone needs to be recalled out of the entire US it is this douche.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    People will just buy two 16oz drinks...
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bloomberg has GOT to go. If anyone needs to be recalled out of the entire US it is this douche.
    I say let him be. For the most part, he's only ****ing up a city that would be just about as ****ed up even without him. Drive him out of there, and you risk having him seek power in some other place, that wasn't so ****ed up to begin with, where he could do some actual harm.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleumange View Post
    Excessive soft drink consumption in a country with one of the highest obesity statistics in the universe can objectively be seen as a bad thing.
    Would you react the same way to an indoor smoking ban?
    Yes. It is stupid as all hell for any government to ban a product that is legal from ANY establishment period. Doesn't matter if its soft drinks or smoking or salad.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why is he so selective regarding the prohibition of foods that are not good for you to consume
    It's called "baby steps". Its the national past time for those that eventually want certain things totally banned. You can see this in numerous areas. From abortion to cigarettes and now...obviously...in food.
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