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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And what a world we'd live in if cops gave out twinkies instead of tazering the **** out of every other person they came across.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Can I guess?

    You learned more thoroughly about seat-belt use in the military?

    So... Government education?
    Won't speak for J-Mac. In my case I learned about seat belts as they became manditory to be placed in vehicles by the govt. and States implemented seat belt laws. For years I had a vehicle that had no belts and States/Feds didn't require them yet. I recall my dad talking to me about when I got a different vehicle I should look at getting one with belts and use them.


    I also ride motorcycles. Have rode off and on for 45 years. I used a helmet at first becuase my parents said in order to ride I must wear a helmit. (Parents teaching responsiblitly and safety). I stuck with helmets because I saw the protection value and personally liked the looks of a full face helmit. (individual choice and responsibility). This was done in States that at the time had no helmit laws.

    While I don't object having the govt set safety standards for vehicles, in the end it boils down to individual responsibility to drive in a safe manner. Growing up cars did not have seat belts,air bags, require child seats. Somehow I, my brother, and millions more made to our 60's. That means we lived through a time where we did not have all this safety stuff. Govt. needs to be prudent on what it wants to try and control/manage/force upon in an individual life.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ...I have often made fun of California, but after being here in Jersey I can safely say the following. New Jersey should be burned to the ground, dug up, and flooded. Cuba would make a better state than New Jersey.
    I couldn't agree with you more. It is truly the armpit of America.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I couldn't agree with you more. It is truly the armpit of America.
    i was thinking asshole, but then that may need to be reserved for tejas
    at least they aren't restricting the ability to buy what you want - unless its marijuana
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm in North Jersey, I'm stuck in middle of a forest.

    Seriously though, I've lived here for just over 3 months and I have learned that New Jersey is the least agreeable state for me. They have so many ****ing rules for every god damned thing. Good luck owning a gun in this PoS state, they'll treat you like a criminal for even asking. Helmet laws, huge taxes, hell you can't cross a bridge in this state without paying a ridiculous toll. I think that's how they keep people in Jersey.

    I have often made fun of California, but after being here in Jersey I can safely say the following. New Jersey should be burned to the ground, dug up, and flooded. Cuba would make a better state than New Jersey.
    I agree with all of that. If you look at a map of the state as it fits into all the others, I have always consider Jersey the 'armpit of america'.

    In other news related to the thread topic: Coca-cola responds -

    Companies fire back at proposed NYC big soda ban - Yahoo! News Canada
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Won't speak for J-Mac. In my case I learned about seat belts as they became manditory to be placed in vehicles by the govt. and States implemented seat belt laws. For years I had a vehicle that had no belts and States/Feds didn't require them yet. I recall my dad talking to me about when I got a different vehicle I should look at getting one with belts and use them.


    I also ride motorcycles. Have rode off and on for 45 years. I used a helmet at first becuase my parents said in order to ride I must wear a helmit. (Parents teaching responsiblitly and safety). I stuck with helmets because I saw the protection value and personally liked the looks of a full face helmit. (individual choice and responsibility). This was done in States that at the time had no helmit laws.

    While I don't object having the govt set safety standards for vehicles, in the end it boils down to individual responsibility to drive in a safe manner. Growing up cars did not have seat belts,air bags, require child seats. Somehow I, my brother, and millions more made to our 60's. That means we lived through a time where we did not have all this safety stuff. Govt. needs to be prudent on what it wants to try and control/manage/force upon in an individual life.
    My answer to j-mac's question was two fold.
    Because in the military it was a requirement, not just in their vehicles, but on their property also, which makes sense because they incur the expenses.
    Through that requirement, I learned, and voluntarily applied it to my own life.

    But I vehemently disagree with it being a law. It should be voluntary.

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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    LOL - the industries love it though . . . the price per measureable quantity goes up the smaller and more convenient the packaging is: no 2-liters? No 1-liters . . . profits soaring.

    They must be fostering this effort. LOL . . . oh: and nevermind the landfills, yeah - nevermind the going-green and reducing packaging waste!

    It won't remotely make a damned different - if I couldn't buy Dr Pepper in a large bottle I'd buy it in smaller bottles and can Whoopidee ****ing do. (in fact: I actually consume more when I have cans in the house - I consume less if I have to pour it into a glass to drink it (2 / 3-liters are more annoying, honestly) . . .and the ease of being able to get a small bottle and take it with me raises my consumption of it . . . os I don't buy cans and small bottles of it purely for this reason.

    Aside that; the city-dwelling folks aren't the ones battling the expanding waistlines . . . they have to walk all over the place. I bet you they're much healthier and can handle the sugar/calories from such things as opposed to people in my town - the main mode of transport is anythingon wheels.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    My answer to j-mac's question was two fold.
    Because in the military it was a requirement, not just in their vehicles, but on their property also, which makes sense because they incur the expenses.
    Through that requirement, I learned, and voluntarily applied it to my own life.

    But I vehemently disagree with it being a law. It should be voluntary.
    That is fine if, and only if, you accept that the liability, even if clearly the other drivers fault, should be limitted to the injuries that you would likely have sustained, had you been wearing a seatbelt in a car or helmet on a motorcycle. If you have ever seen a motorcycle crash where the rider was vaulted several yards and slid down the pavement and was not in a helmet, or if you have seen the unbelted and ejected occupant of a car crash then you may change your mind.
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Won't speak for J-Mac. In my case I learned about seat belts as they became manditory to be placed in vehicles by the govt. and States implemented seat belt laws. For years I had a vehicle that had no belts and States/Feds didn't require them yet. I recall my dad talking to me about when I got a different vehicle I should look at getting one with belts and use them.

    I also ride motorcycles. Have rode off and on for 45 years. I used a helmet at first becuase my parents said in order to ride I must wear a helmit. (Parents teaching responsiblitly and safety). I stuck with helmets because I saw the protection value and personally liked the looks of a full face helmit. (individual choice and responsibility). This was done in States that at the time had no helmit laws.

    While I don't object having the govt set safety standards for vehicles, in the end it boils down to individual responsibility to drive in a safe manner. Growing up cars did not have seat belts,air bags, require child seats. Somehow I, my brother, and millions more made to our 60's. That means we lived through a time where we did not have all this safety stuff. Govt. needs to be prudent on what it wants to try and control/manage/force upon in an individual life.
    Yes the good old days, back when sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous. Now we have AIDS and anti-lock brakes. ;-)
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    Re: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my grandfather referred to sodas as 'dope'
    probably because back in his day coca cola actually contained cocaine
    this is the side of the old coke bottling plant in my hometown :

    37349_1423604601632_1077398_n.jpg

    it reads : "Coca Cola Relieves Fatigue." sign was painted during the cocaine coke era.

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