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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Not every problem can be solved with bombing.
    No, but many can.
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    actually, no
    if that were true, given its own stash of nuclear weapons and propensity to cross sovereign borders to initiate attack against its neighbors, there would be no nation on the planet more sanctioned than israel
    Ahh, the old 'moral equivalence between Israel and the Islamic despotic regimes that surround her' argument. You can always count on the Israel bashers to bring that one out.
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Ahh, the old 'moral equivalence between Israel and the Islamic despotic regimes that surround her' argument. You can always count on the Israel bashers to bring that one out.
    and the zionists hate it when the truth emerges for all to see
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    We are putting in overtime effort to make sure we have a new war once we leave Afghanistan. We already have all those troops and supplies over there...might as well use them. They won't do any good inside the US.
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen
    Since Iran - and apparently you - feels it has no obligations to the international community
    Straw man.

    The obligations it has to the international community are those it agreed to in various treaties. It has obligations, and it is meeting them.

    I do find it interesting the number of defenders the Iranian nuclear program seems to have on this forum.
    So far as I know I haven't even defended the Iranian nuclear program, I have merely dismantled all the bull**** that is being claimed and showed it is meeting its obligations.

    Must be their splendid record on civil rights in Iran since their 'revolution' that has inspired such confidence.
    Ah, the old "if I cant debate on the current issue I'll deflect and generalize, that'll show em!" But hey, wonderful contribution to the thread, really high quality stuff. I can tell you tried particularly hard to write these posts.
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Despite the surreal claims that Iran is meeting all of its obligations, the IAEA says otherwise. In one of its concluding points, the IAEA stated:

    While the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material at the nuclear facilities and LOFs declared by Iran under its Safeguards Agreement, as Iran is not providing the necessary cooperation, including by not implementing its Additional Protocol, the Agency is unable to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran, and therefore to conclude that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.

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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    I don't believe some of you understand the real implications of continuing this path to war with Iran. Some of you are talking about bombing Iran, but do you know that there will consequences to that?

    We're talking of not only having innocent people being killed, but also the fact that Russia and China will not stand on the sidelines as we cripple the country they get oil from.

    Going into Iran like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan is a huge mistake. We're worried about the possibility of Iran obtaining one nuclear weapon when we dealt with a lot worse during the Cold War. Thinking that bombs will solve our problems is not smart because all it does is create even more hatred for us.

    Why? Why do I want more American lives to be risked over war propaganda? Why do I want the spark for another World War to be started by our stupid preventative wars of aggression?

    It makes no sense. I am tired of perpetual war. I am tired of using Israel as an excuse to go to war. You want Israel to be protected? Then we should allow them to do it without our input. We should allow Israel to have its sovereignty.
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I don't believe some of you understand the real implications of continuing this path to war with Iran. Some of you are talking about bombing Iran, but do you know that there will consequences to that?

    We're talking of not only having innocent people being killed, but also the fact that Russia and China will not stand on the sidelines as we cripple the country they get oil from.

    Going into Iran like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan is a huge mistake. We're worried about the possibility of Iran obtaining one nuclear weapon when we dealt with a lot worse during the Cold War. Thinking that bombs will solve our problems is not smart because all it does is create even more hatred for us.

    Why? Why do I want more American lives to be risked over war propaganda? Why do I want the spark for another World War to be started by our stupid preventative wars of aggression?

    It makes no sense. I am tired of perpetual war. I am tired of using Israel as an excuse to go to war. You want Israel to be protected? Then we should allow them to do it without our input. We should allow Israel to have its sovereignty.
    How about, "It has nothing to do with NUKES." OIL is/was Iraq. OIL is/was Libya. "NUKES" is the strawman as an excuse to divert attention away from the "it's about OIL" reality. The powers that be don't want to acknowledge that the OIL money has purchased a policy of acquisition by war.. You can't deny history. Doesn't it feel just grand to be manipulated by our politicians and energy corporations? That'd be you and I.

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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by donny
    the IAEA says otherwise.
    No it doesn't. Not even in your quote. Not even in your underlined section. The IAEA has never said that Iran is in noncompliance with the obligations set forth either in the NPT or in its treaty with the IAEA.
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    Re: 'Very clear' signs of Iran sanitizing military site, Western diplomat says

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    How about, "It has nothing to do with NUKES." OIL is/was Iraq. OIL is/was Libya. "NUKES" is the strawman as an excuse to divert attention away from the "it's about OIL" reality. The powers that be don't want to acknowledge that the OIL money has purchased a policy of acquisition by war.. You can't deny history. Doesn't it feel just grand to be manipulated by our politicians and energy corporations? That'd be you and I.
    I understand it is about oil. They used the WMD excuse on Iraq. I'm using the Cold War reference to punch holes in the Nuke excuse. Iran has what our government wants and that is oil. The problem is that Iran is not a country that stands on its own. If we continue down this path then we risk possible war with Russia and China.
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