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    Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108 - Yahoo! News

    BEIRUT (AP) — A weekend massacre of more than 100 people emerged as a potential turning point in the Syrian crisis Monday, galvanizing even staunch ally Russia to take an unusually hard line against President Bashar Assad's government.
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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Eh. Its just propaganda.

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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    I'm sure Putin sent down Natasha Fatale with some handcuffs for spanky time.

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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Talk is cheap.
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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Well,at least it's something.Let see if Putin has the cajones to really put the screws to Asssad,or is he just blowing smoke?

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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Well,at least it's something.Let see if Putin has the cajones to really put the screws to Asssad,or is he just blowing smoke?
    IMO, Putin should condemn the action and threaten sanctions as punishment for future atrocities. I don't believe it would be any more appropriate for Russia to seek to bring about regime change than it would be for the U.S. to do so.

    Indeed, given its interests, Russia likely has a much greater stake in preserving the status quo, while the U.S. can afford greater flexibility. No matter the outcome in Syria, there likely won't be fundamental change vis-a-vis the U.S. and U.S. allies. There's no concrete evidence that a successor regime, even if it could take hold and bring about stability, would be any friendlier to U.S. interests and allies. In contrast, Russia has more to lose, as a successor regime might well be far less friendly to Moscow than the current regime has been.

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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    I thought the US reaction was atrocious.

    What is White House's response to massacre in Syria? - CBS News Video

    All they did was expel diplomats and then ADMITTED that would not work!
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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I thought the US reaction was atrocious.

    What is White House's response to massacre in Syria? - CBS News Video

    All they did was expel diplomats and then ADMITTED that would not work!
    The U.S. has no good solutions that would immediately or effectively bring about an end to the bloodshed in Syria. It can and should condemn atrocities. It can impose unilateral sanctions (but such sanctions usually are not effective) or seek multilateral ones. It can symbolically express displeasure by expelling diplomats. Issues such as the lack of critical U.S. interests in Syria, questions about the character and nature of the anti-Assad uprising, the lack of vision/governing agenda by the anti-Assad movement, and Syria's sectarian makeup preclude military-driven regime change.

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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The U.S. has no good solutions that would immediately or effectively bring about an end to the bloodshed in Syria. It can and should condemn atrocities. It can impose unilateral sanctions (but such sanctions usually are not effective) or seek multilateral ones. It can symbolically express displeasure by expelling diplomats. Issues such as the lack of critical U.S. interests in Syria, questions about the character and nature of the anti-Assad uprising, the lack of vision/governing agenda by the anti-Assad movement, and Syria's sectarian makeup preclude military-driven regime change.
    Oh b.s. NOTHING precludes military action when innocent civilians are being slaughtered like cattle. One F-22 could take out their entire military in a day. They are an ant, an ant that needs to be squashed...NOW. I was all for sanctions until this. Now, it is time to take real action.
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    Re: Russia condemns ally Syria over massacre of 108

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Oh b.s. NOTHING precludes military action when innocent civilians are being slaughtered like cattle. One F-22 could take out their entire military in a day. They are an ant, an ant that needs to be squashed...NOW. I was all for sanctions until this. Now, it is time to take real action.
    Aside from your vastly underestimating Syria's military capabilities (which are vastly greater than the Taliban's in Afghanistan), I do not believe the U.S. should give its military the mission of dealing with similar violence wherever it might exist regardless of U.S. interests. If one argues for military intervention in Syria, one cannot credibly argue against a similar stance as it relates to strife between Sudan and South Sudan (essentially the continuation of a civil conflict that became international only because of the splitting of Sudan), Somalia, Yemen, Democratic Republic of Congo, among others.

    The U.S. does not have unlimited resources (financial, manpower, weapons) to exponentially expand its military commitments and operations, followed by difficult nation-building afterward. The national interest remains a logical constraint.

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