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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    We can't even hold back juvenile Chinese hackers, what makes you think we could handle this?
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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What makes anyone think we are not already prepared for this? Note that none of these attacks made it to the US. So far as we know, lol.

    The government has been hiring code writers, software engineers, and even hackers, for years. There are plenty of people on defense dept payroll who got "scouted" by the FBI first, lol.
    Perhaps it was the US who developed this. We do not know who developed and disseminated this yet.

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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I already did prove my point. Length of code means nothing; the reporter that wrote that article definitely does not know much about what he is talking about. I will read the Wired article for a better source.
    You have proven nothing, you stated a singular element of what was provided was meaningless. Kindly provide a source for your position and be more dispositive regarding the issues presented.

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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    We need Richard Clarke on this. Actually, he's probably already on it. He's been talking about this kind of stuff for years. I hope the Pentagon listened to him enough to prepare some real cybersecurity for sensitive systems in this country.
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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    You have proven nothing, you stated a singular element of what was provided was meaningless. Kindly provide a source for your position and be more dispositive regarding the issues presented.
    I don't even know wtf you think I'm arguing. Are you really just disputing my assertion that length of code doesn't mean anything? Really?
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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    LOL because length of code means anything at all.

    Sorry, I just find these type of articles written by non-tech people hilarious. Maybe Wired will do an article on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I don't even know wtf you think I'm arguing. Are you really just disputing my assertion that length of code doesn't mean anything? Really?

    Yes I am.......


    Here is an article written by the guy whose organization, Kaspersky Lab, found the Flame malware Alexander Gostev, Aleks has headed the Global Research and Analysis Team at Kaspersky Lab since 2008, and specializes in all aspects of information security, including mobile malware. His responsibilities include detecting and analyzing new malware.

    Mr. Gostev's take on the length of code:

    How sophisticated is Flame?

    First of all, Flame is a huge package of modules comprising almost 20 MB in size when fully deployed. Because of this, it is an extremely difficult piece of malware to analyze. The reason why Flame is so big is because it includes many different libraries, such as for compression (zlib, libbz2, ppmd) and database manipulation (sqlite3), together with a Lua virtual machine.

    Lua is a scripting (programming) language, which can very easily be extended and interfaced with C code. Many parts of Flame have high order logic written in Lua - with effective attack subroutines and libraries compiled from C++.

    The effective Lua code part is rather small compared to the overall code. Our estimation of development ‘cost’ in Lua is over 3000 lines of code, which for an average developer should take about a month to create and debug.

    Why is it called Flame? What is the origin of its name?

    The Flame malware is a large attack toolkit made up of multiple modules. One of the main modules was named Flame - it’s the module responsible for attacking and infecting additional machines.

    Why is the program several MBs of code? What functionality does it have that could make it so much larger than Stuxnet?


    The large size of the malware is precisely why it wasn’t discovered for so long. In general, today’s malware is small and focused. It’s easier to hide a small file than a larger module. Additionally, over unreliable networks, downloading 100K has a much higher chance of being successful than downloading 6MB.

    Flame’s modules together account for over 20MB. Much of these are libraries designed to handle SSL traffic, SSH connections, sniffing, attack, interception of communications and so on. Consider this: it took us several months to analyze the 500K code of Stuxnet. It will probably take year to fully understand the 20MB of code of Flame.

    The Flame: Questions and Answers - Securelist

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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We need Richard Clarke on this. Actually, he's probably already on it. He's been talking about this kind of stuff for years. I hope the Pentagon listened to him enough to prepare some real cybersecurity for sensitive systems in this country.
    He isn't the only one that's been preaching CyberSecurity. Most DC experts in that field have been preaching it for years. Always the question is whether or not anyone is listening.
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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I don't even know wtf you think I'm arguing. Are you really just disputing my assertion that length of code doesn't mean anything? Really?
    That's half of it. Sure a paradigm shift in programming happens every once in awhile but overall things are pretty much the same this year as last year. With something that's been hiding on these machines for a couple of years, yes, it's a big deal that the program is as big as it is - roughly 6MB (8?) for the main package not counting the modules. Even a college student can program better than that if this was just a Stuxnet (500KB) clone or something.

    The other half is that, yes, 'common' reporters don't have much of a clue about the details - but it's still a quick source that something is up. If you don't want to completely trust the data in a quick story like this I don't blame you but every news item is a matter of what you get from it. I got a heads up that there was something newsworthy out there to research and did so. In the time it took you to type your first post you could have had two of the three links I posted. Instead, you chose to piss on what someone thought was newsworthy and was nice enough to share.
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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

    Sorry, I just find these type of articles written by non-tech people hilarious. Maybe Wired will do an article on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The other half is that, yes, 'common' reporters don't have much of a clue about the details - but it's still a quick source that something is up. If you don't want to completely trust the data in a quick story like this I don't blame you but every news item is a matter of what you get from it. I got a heads up that there was something newsworthy out there to research and did so. In the time it took you to type your first post you could have had two of the three links I posted. Instead, you chose to piss on what someone thought was newsworthy and was nice enough to share.
    Khayembii Communique has not yet adequately rebutted any of the information provided in this thread with anything but his opinion. He criticized the writer as a "non-tech" person, however, the information was provided by Kaspersky Lab senior researcher Roel Schouwenberg. The poster was here just to create a non issue out of nonsense.
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    Re: Powerful 'Flame' cyber weapon found in Iran

    Related to the OP and coming on the heels of the discovery this week of the 'Flame' virus which has been attacking computer systems in Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia,two Cambridge experts have discovered a "back door" in a computer chip used in military systems and aircraft such as the Boeing 787 that could allow the chip to be taken over via the internet.

    Hi-tech sabotage circa 2012 ?

    Cyber-attack concerns raised over Boeing 787 chip's 'back door' | Technology | guardian.co.uk

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