Can't we just turn Congress off and then turn it back on again?
Does anyone else here notice the resemblance to the closing chapters of Mockingjay?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/wo...ref=middleeast) (Syria: Armed Opposition Groups Committing Abuses | Human Rights Watch)
In addition to this, the Arab League Observer Mission Report in Syria stated that an “armed entity” exists and has been “involved in the killings of civilians and police as well as the conduct of terrorist acts, which in turn have contributed to triggering actions by government forces.” (SYRIA. TEXT OF LEAKED ARAB LEAGUE MISSION REPORT Report Reveals Media Lies Regarding Syria)
Thus, neither side can be said to be 'good' or 'bad,' rather, it is having to choose the lesser of two evils.
"And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."
The rhetoric has this weekend, been turned up. As a conservative, I can see very few situations where I'd support military action into Syria under the "humanitarian" excuse. Most if not all include either NATO and a very broad alliance, or Russia and China on the UN Security Council attributing boots and supplies. Other than that... no freaking way. The U.S. would be insane to do this alone and with this President, the chances of that are zero anyway. The U.S. is broke - we cannot afford another incursion into Syria, especially when Iran would most assuredly either covertly or openly attack our troops there (or any troops there tbh). From what I gather there is no strong opposition group vying for leadership there, so who do we work with? No clue. Obama isn't going to do a damn thing, sure as hell won't go it alone as he has neither the balls to risk such an action in an election year, nor does he know what he'd do even if we did go in - he'd literally be lost in the wilderness with no hope of finding a way out.
So everyone best get used to seeing more atrocity stories from Syria... Politically speaking, neo-cons will pummel Obama for being weak, Republicans will pummel Obama claiming hypocrisy (we went into Libya for humanitarian reasons, why not Syria?) and that hypocrisy is Obama's own doing - we shouldn't have gone into Libya either. Iran is percolating and Israel is planning... all the while the REAL issue American's care about: Jobs and the economy, continue to sputter, debt continues to rise, welfare programs become more popular than ever, and we're talking about everything BUT what we need to. I agree with most of this thread by saying: Hell no we don't intervene in Syria, the focus is here at home.
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
American Massacres Have Been Common for Centuries
by Jack D. Douglas Mar 13 2012,
For hundreds of years Americans have been committing massacres of women and children, old men and sometimes even young men, mostly unarmed or armed only with primitive weapons. The early massacres were mostly of Indians who refused to leave their lands when Americans decided it was God's will that they steal those lands for nothing or for a few trinkets. In the Civil War Sherman and Grant routinely massacred Southern civilian populations with bombardments of cities, burning homes and Atlanta [though I do not know death figures], and so on. ......
Most U.S. massacres are totally censored by the U.S. and its Big Media. Some come to light many decades later, as in the case of No Gun Rhi in which the U.S. gunned down unknown numbers of South Koreans. Lt, Calley and his company in South Vietnam massacred somewhere near 500 women and children in the My Lai Massacre.......
American Massacres Have Been Common for Centuries - informationliberation
Last edited by katsung47; 05-29-12 at 04:13 PM.
Again, you point fingers at us out of habit, not out of a knowledge of fact.
My point is that people have a very sad way of defining what hypocracy, soveriegnty, and justification is. They pick and choose the most opportune time to grand stand and look the other way depending on the situation and on whether or not they agree with the activity.
You are out of touch with the world's perspective. We will and are taken seriously because we are the power and they are all aware of that. The world didn't protest Iraq because they loved Saddam Hussein. They fear our unchecked power. Years later when France practically begged for America to assist with Libya, the entire effort hinged on whether or not we would participate. And when it comes time to deal with Syria and Iran, the world will look to America's technology, military experience and civilian leadership.
Our policies are not "incredibly" hypocritical. However, the bit of hypocracy that does exist is due to a world that demands hypocracy out of governments. What is incredibly hypocritical is the American protestor who picks and chooses his/her time to stand by words like "hypocracy."
And by the way, the vast majority of all civilian deaths in Afghanistan comes from Taliban/Al-Queda IEDs and attacks. The best thing to happen for Al-Queda wasn't the drone. It is the Americans ignorant ideals of what is going on and his/her willingness to assist Al-Queda in twisting the truth. And the truth is that the most deadliest thing in the Middle East is another Muslim.
I had posted a map used by american army that divides turkey into two parts ,and nato also knows this map.what I mean is that ,of course if US is a world power ,I have the right to criticize it for trying to change all the maps here .) tell me which world power does such a thing?
ı think you are not aware of great middle east project ,okay you may not know but I know
like Egypt ,Turkey has been an ally of US but that map still exists and US government supports our both liberal and islamic government, because administrations and borderlines have to change according to new world order ,
I will give you my link, please read.I am living in a region where no bird can fly without the awareness of US and you say I dont know anything ! please dont do..it is funny )
http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...t-project.html (the great middle east project)
and let me say saudi arabia cant do anything without america's permission
I understand you but you must understand me too because I have no reason to lie sweetty.
Last edited by Medusa; 05-29-12 at 05:02 PM.
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK
Last edited by donsutherland1; 05-29-12 at 05:48 PM.
Can't we just turn Congress off and then turn it back on again?