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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Interesting case and interesting reactions here.

    I really don't think it is so black and white. She was 15 or 16 sophmore and he was a senior standing 6'4" and weighing 225 pounds. He went out of class to make a phone call and ran into her with them ending up having sex.

    Can almost picture this becoming one of those Martin-Zimmerman threads. He should have made the phone call and returned to class and she should have went to her class. Perhaps she got in over her head with the older male and lost her virginity and then panicked and said it was rape. She definitely got in over her head and cost a young man an unfair pusnishment which I feel is similiar to Zimmerman getting in over his head.

    I don't think the Zimmerman-Martin case is black and white and neither do I feel this one is.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    You've obviously never been around or have experience dealing with our "justice" system. With a charge like rape, the prosecutor will give you a chance for a plea deal, plea guilty and get a much shorter sentence from a lesser charge. Plea not guilty, make your victim testify in front of a jury watching her cry, and they will bury you alive. I've seen people go from 2 years probation to 25 years in prison by pleading not guilty and going to trial.

    Like I said, I don't agree with our "justice" system but its what we have. This thread is yet another reason why I think they should abolish the sex offender registry.
    WRONG. I have been so charged. I was 18, she was 14 and I was scared, but I held my ground. I met her in a bar, she had fake ID from her cousin. We were never alone together as I was with another couple that took us to her home and dropped her off, late, about 1 am. Her parents were very upset that she had been out late and beat her until she admitted being with me at the bar. The police arrested me the next weekend as we had arrainged to meet there again then, to go to the beach. I spent 3 days in jail before making bail (property bond). The whole 'rape' story was BS but the charges were filed and I went to court. The case was dismissed due to lack of evidence, as by the tiral date she told the police/DA the truth, that there was no rape or intercourse at all, so the state had no case. I had the fortune of having witnesses and an honest 'victim', but no way I would plead out -ever.
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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WRONG. I have been so charged. I was 18, she was 14 and I was scared, but I held my ground. I met her in a bar, she had fake ID from her cousin. We were never alone together as I was with another couple that took us to her home and dropped her off, late, about 1 am. Her parents were very upset that she had been out late and beat her until she admitted being with me at the bar. The police arrested me the next weekend as we had arrainged to meet there again then, to go to the beach. I spent 3 days in jail before making bail (property bond). The whole 'rape' story was BS but the charges were filed and I went to court. The case was dismissed due to lack of evidence, as by the tiral date she told the police/DA the truth, that there was no rape or intercourse at all, so the state had no case. I had the fortune of having witnesses and an honest 'victim', but no way I would plead out -ever.
    What do you mean "wrong?" What I said happens has been documented many times over. Just because it didn't happen to you does not mean it doesn't happen regularly.

    False Rape Society: Young man falsely accused of rape tells False Rape Society his gripping story

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...MM4bx63gpD1ouI
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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Before DNA alot of men were falsely convicted of rape..

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Before DNA alot of men were falsely convicted of rape..
    There is such an emotional bond with the victim of a sexual assault that juries tend to "error on the side of caution" rather than put a potential rapist back on the street, they convict even if they aren't sure.

    The problem lies in that with things such as molestation, with no evidence, true to God real molestations don't leave evidence except for an honestly harmed child. But a child being honest and a child faking it look identical up on the witness stand. Therein lies the problem.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    He was a fool to have plead guilty, as it leaves no recourse to sue the accuser (or the state). As usual it is the taxpayers that lose in the end as they paid this liar $1.5 million in tax money (via the schools fault in the non-rape), now long gone I would bet.
    A plea of "no contest" is not a guilty plea. It says a person accepts the punishment but is not accepting the guilt for the crime. It gives him every bit of recourse against the person and the state.
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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So where is she? What are the charges against her?

    She better be in ****ing jail now - you don't utterly destroy someone's life so cruely over some stupid 'what my mommy thought of me' crap - and then just get away with it.

    Justice = tossing her lying skank ass in the clink and losing that damned key.
    From what I understand, there aren't any charges being persued--so far.

    A decision that would end up in me being sent back to jail, for beating the living **** out of this lieing whore.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    There is such an emotional bond with the victim of a sexual assault that juries tend to "error on the side of caution" rather than put a potential rapist back on the street, they convict even if they aren't sure.

    The problem lies in that with things such as molestation, with no evidence, true to God real molestations don't leave evidence except for an honestly harmed child. But a child being honest and a child faking it look identical up on the witness stand. Therein lies the problem.
    Before DNA..we relied on Lineups if we had a suspect...there were wrong identifications by the victims and there was outright lieing going on also....but if you got identified in a lineup by the victim...the lionshare of the time the prosector brought it to trial.
    Dna has helped dramatically to lower the mistakes

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    I have tremendous sympathy for rape victims and hope they can heal and see justice. However, I have ZERO sympathy for anyone who falsely accuses someone of rape. Doing that to someone is almost as bad as raping them. It also hurts real rape victims because these kind of cases can plant a seed of doubt in real cases. It's very disturbing.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WRONG. I have been so charged. I was 18, she was 14 and I was scared, but I held my ground. I met her in a bar, she had fake ID from her cousin. We were never alone together as I was with another couple that took us to her home and dropped her off, late, about 1 am. Her parents were very upset that she had been out late and beat her until she admitted being with me at the bar. The police arrested me the next weekend as we had arrainged to meet there again then, to go to the beach. I spent 3 days in jail before making bail (property bond). The whole 'rape' story was BS but the charges were filed and I went to court. The case was dismissed due to lack of evidence, as by the tiral date she told the police/DA the truth, that there was no rape or intercourse at all, so the state had no case. I had the fortune of having witnesses and an honest 'victim', but no way I would plead out -ever.
    That's awful. I'm really sorry you had to go through all that. Did the false victim try to do anything to make it up to you? Seriously, as soon as she reached adulthood, she should have done something like give you 20% of everything she earned for 20 years. It's not that that would make it all better, but it's something.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Its worse than that, actually. There are people on this forum, after having been told the immense number of innocent people found on death row, have said things to the tune of "Well, most of them are guilty, so I stand behind the death penalty."

    That is down right ****ing scary.
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