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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Apparently it could happen to anyone - for no damn reason at all. to convict someone there should be real evidence; not a story = sorry = no matter what crime we're talking about a story should never *ever* be 'enough'
    The problem with other sex offenses like child molestation, there is NO evidence whatsoever, just the testimony of a child. Many men are in prison today because of a young child coerced to lie by one parent about their other parent touching them. The child makes a statement to police, or no statement at all and the mother makes a statement, the man is offered a plea deal and a lawyer saying they will bury you if you go to trial and put that child on the witness stand. So he pleas out just to avoid 25 years in the clink with a bunch of inmates that want to kill him for what he "did."

    Long gone is the fact that the whole thing is made up by a manipulative and hateful ex-wife who wants to get back at him for things he did, or was perceived to have done, that pissed off the ex wife.

    Look at that teacher who caught those little girls in a sex act. The little girls reported the TEACHER for touching them and she spent her life savings, and in the mean time her reputation was ruined, to try to defend herself. She was found not guilty and there are still people that want her head on a pole thinking she touched those girls. Come to find out the girls were touching each other, and when caught, turned on the teacher that caught them.

    That wonderful woman will never teach again as her reputation is ruined, she'll always be "that teacher accused of touching those little girls." Just the ACCUSATION is enough to ruin someones reputation. That's what people just don't realize.
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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    In a more perfect world, a Prosecutor would care as much about innocence as guilt, in order to be certain of justice. Unfortunately, we have an adversarial legal system in which both sides are liars and actors for the sake of victory, not justice.

    I think that too many people are wrongly convicted. It doesn't seem to bother anyone, I never hear much of an outcry over this. Seems like if you don't get the death penalty, its no biggie that your life is destroyed. Something seems wrong about that.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    In a more perfect world, a Prosecutor would care as much about innocence as guilt, in order to be certain of justice. Unfortunately, we have an adversarial legal system in which both sides are liars and actors for the sake of victory, not justice.

    I think that too many people are wrongly convicted. It doesn't seem to bother anyone, I never hear much of an outcry over this. Seems like if you don't get the death penalty, its no biggie that your life is destroyed. Something seems wrong about that.
    Its worse than that, actually. There are people on this forum, after having been told the immense number of innocent people found on death row, have said things to the tune of "Well, most of them are guilty, so I stand behind the death penalty."

    That is down right ****ing scary.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    one innocent man being executed is a tragedy.

    100 is a crime against humanity.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Its worse than that, actually. There are people on this forum, after having been told the immense number of innocent people found on death row, have said things to the tune of "Well, most of them are guilty, so I stand behind the death penalty."

    That is down right ****ing scary.
    Agreed....

    Sure there's due process and I'd like to think the system works in most cases. But with so many death row convictions overturned and plenty of studies showing many don't get a fair shake, you've got to wonder if the system isn't flawed a bit?

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Agreed....

    Sure there's due process and I'd like to think the system works in most cases. But with so many death row convictions overturned and plenty of studies showing many don't get a fair shake, you've got to wonder if the system isn't flawed a bit?
    of course it's flawed - I see nothing wrong with keeping someone in jail and alive as an alternative.
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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    of course it's flawed - I see nothing wrong with keeping someone in jail and alive as an alternative.

    Its flawed because despite everyone's wish to the contrary, "justice" is expensive in this country.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Its flawed because despite everyone's wish to the contrary, "justice" is expensive in this country.
    What's the classic comment "it takes more to kill someone off than to let them live"
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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    What's the classic comment "it takes more to kill someone off than to let them live"
    as far as I am concerned, the only folks who should be exectuted for crimes, are those who admit to having committed the crime and the police have verified their admission with hard evidence.

    other than that, the danger of executing even one innocent man, is too great to bare.

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    Re: A 10-year nightmare over rape conviction is over

    Perhaps, but this accuser was no rocket scientist and had given some mixed up versions of events prior to trial. I understand that most public defenders are not that bright, but I would never plead if not guilty. The burden of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, still rests with the state and there was only a single "witness" for the state.
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