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Gallup: Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%

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"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%

PRINCETON, NJ -- The 41% of Americans who now identify themselves as "pro-choice" is down from 47% last July and is one percentage point below the previous record low in Gallup trends, recorded in May 2009. Fifty percent now call themselves "pro-life," one point shy of the record high, also from May 2009.
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Most underreported trend going. The MSM will have you think 90 percent of us are pro-choice.
 
Congressional approval is at something like 10%. That won't make them go away.

Right now, by law, we are "pro-choice" and that law has survived repeated challenges, even in a Conservative leaning Supreme Court.

Those who are on the losing side of the argument, the "anti-abortion" people, are therefore more enthusiastic and more vocal. It has very little impact on reality however.
 
specklebang said:
Congressional approval is at something like 10%. That won't make them go away.

Right now, by law, we are "pro-choice" and that law has survived repeated challenges, even in a Conservative leaning Supreme Court.

Those who are on the losing side of the argument, the "anti-abortion" people, are therefore more enthusiastic and more vocal. It has very little impact on reality however.
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Liberals like to claim that government should protect the most vulnerable among us, and that they are the champions of that spirit, yet.......
 
This is good evidence that liberals advice to republicans about dropping the pro-life platform, is bad advice.

In fact it will benefit liberals more if they drop their pro-choice platform.
 
Camlon said:
This is good evidence that liberals advice to republicans about dropping the pro-life platform, is bad advice.

In fact it will benefit liberals more if they drop their pro-choice platform.
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I wouldn't agree with that. There are a lot of pro-choice single issue voters, so dropping the platform altogether wouldn't be a good idea for liberals.

I do think this is evidence that dropping the pro-life platform isn't necessarily the best idea. Unlike moving toward same-sex marriage, we don't seem to be moving toward a pro-choice nation, and if anything we are moving away from it. The two issues often get lumped together as issues the Republican party needs to do away with, but they are very different. Republicans probably should stop talking about rape though.
 
The problem is that while a person may be "pro-life" over "pro-choice", the reality is there are a lot of shades of each.

For example, someone whose "Pro-life" but believes that you have to have allowances for the case of rape, incest, or health of the mother may go vote for the Pro-Choice candidate if you have the "Pro-Life" candidate suggesting that the only time an abortion should be legal is if the woman is clearly going to die without it.

You also have individuals who are personally "pro-life" in their views, but don't support it being made into federal law.

What the poll shows is pretty much what I've come to expect on this issue...its one largely split evenly down the middle with a wavering middle portion that goes either direction at various times. It's not as much of a cultural thing as Same Sex Marriage, where it's going to change significantly with each new generation but rather an issue that's likely to remain deadlocked. That's because the entire basis for many peoples views on EITHER side is based on their arbitrary opinion on the primary focus of hte issue.
 
Great - those 50% shouldn't have to get an abortion.
 
Only 9% of Americans have any sense? That's depressing.
 
Erod said:
"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%


[/CENTER]Most underreported trend going. The MSM will have you think 90 percent of us are pro-choice.
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There are several problems with what you are presenting.

First, I am continuously amazed by conservatives who would on the one hand...gun ownership...claim that what the majority wants is of little or no consequence because the Constitution guaruntees gun rights. Yet in the case of abortion, when the SCOTUS has ruled the Constitutional right to choice conservatives still maintain that majority opinion on abortion matters. I find this to be very inconsistant and intellectually dishonest.

Second, the very same poll you are touting as proof that the public now supports the pro-life agenda is misleading at best. The pro-life agenda as stated by the Republican platform wants to ban abortion period. The same poll you linked to indicates that over 75% of Americans are opposed to that position.

Third, you claim that this some secret that the main MSM media is hiding from Americans yet is consistantly discussed every election on almost every level of government by every news outlet. This in my opinion is the most overreported issue in American politics.

Fouth, self-identification is the absolute worst way to tell any kind of trend. This is because most people self-identify as to what sounds good to them instead of what they really are. This is easily betrayed by the various other polls that puts legalized abortion in some form at about 75% this includes the very poll you cite. Even though people self-identify is pro-life, which is easy to identify yourself as, they still support legalized abortion in wide range circumstances which is directly contrary to the stated GOP position.

Fifth, I think you should now reconsider your icon. Might I suggest just changing the "One" to a "Two." You can even keep the Obama campaign logo in the o of the two.
 
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Obfuscation is always such a big part of all liberal nonsense.

The Conservative position is very clear: Anti-Abortion, Pro-Life. That means babies get to live.

The loon position is "Pro-Choice."
 
Ray410 said:
Obfuscation is always such a big part of all liberal nonsense.

The Conservative position is very clear: Anti-Abortion, Pro-Life. That means babies get to live.

The loon position is "Pro-Choice."
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We are right they are wrong so they must be crazy...what a load of self-righteous crap.
 
Zyphlin said:
The problem is that while a person may be "pro-life" over "pro-choice", the reality is there are a lot of shades of each.

For example, someone whose "Pro-life" but believes that you have to have allowances for the case of rape, incest, or health of the mother may go vote for the Pro-Choice candidate if you have the "Pro-Life" candidate suggesting that the only time an abortion should be legal is if the woman is clearly going to die without it.

You also have individuals who are personally "pro-life" in their views, but don't support it being made into federal law.

What the poll shows is pretty much what I've come to expect on this issue...its one largely split evenly down the middle with a wavering middle portion that goes either direction at various times. It's not as much of a cultural thing as Same Sex Marriage, where it's going to change significantly with each new generation but rather an issue that's likely to remain deadlocked. That's because the entire basis for many peoples views on EITHER side is based on their arbitrary opinion on the primary focus of hte issue.
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Personally I would say that I am against abortion....however I am 100% pro-choice. I believe that it is not a choice that I should make. It is a choice to be made by a woman with advice from her doctor and anyone else that she seeks out. But it is her choice. Period.
 
I have to admit I was surprised by this poll...I thought a majority was pro choice.
 
disneydude said:
Personally I would say that I am against abortion....however I am 100% pro-choice. I believe that it is not a choice that I should make. It is a choice to be made by a woman with advice from her doctor and anyone else that she seeks out. But it is her choice. Period.
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That sig is a joke right?

Is there any point at which you would stop an abortion ?
 
who cares is 100% of people are proabortion??? its MURDER and it should be illegal no matter what what is 100% of people think murdering adults should be legal does that make it right???? NO
 
ObamaIsAMarxist said:
who cares is 100% of people are proabortion??? its MURDER and it should be illegal no matter what what is 100% of people think murdering adults should be legal does that make it right???? NO
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So you oppose Capital Punishment, I assume?
 
ObamaIsAMarxist said:
who cares is 100% of people are proabortion??? its MURDER and it should be illegal no matter what what is 100% of people think murdering adults should be legal does that make it right???? NO
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Well we all know that during WW2 that Jews were not considered people in Germany so it wasnt murder killing them right?
 
Gawain said:
That sig is a joke right?

Is there any point at which you would stop an abortion ?
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No....I am proud to have a President that we can actually be proud of...someone who has restored the integrity of this country and the values that America represents.

As for your second question. Like I said. Personally, I think abortion is wrong. But that decision is a decision that rests in the hands of the woman. Period.
 
no the bible says a eye for a eye exodus 21:24 but you think putting a criminal to death is the same as killing a baby????? liberals have no morals

disneydude said:
So you oppose Capital Punishment, I assume?
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jews are people and yes it was murder

Gawain said:
Well we all know that during WW2 that Jews were not considered people in Germany so it wasnt murder killing them right?
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ObamaIsAMarxist said:
no the bible says a eye for a eye exodus 21:24 but you think putting a criminal to death is the same as killing a baby????? liberals have no morals
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You don't believe in the new testament? I guess if you are non-Christian, you would have a biblical argument there.
 
Zygotes are human and yes it is murder was my point. Just because someone doesnt consider something human doesnt make it so.
 
hahaha where in the nt does jesus christ say ya go ahead and kill babies???? what church do you go to disneydude

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You don't believe in the new testament? I guess if you are non-Christian, you would have a biblical argument there.
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