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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think he was referring to their "choice" to get married. I may be wrong though.
    You are somewhat. People have a choice in everything they do. Marriage and who they have sex with included.
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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Damnit, we need for more chairs for the gay party then!
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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You are somewhat. People have a choice in everything they do. Marriage and who they have sex with included.
    "Somewhat." Do you think people choose to be gay?

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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    "Somewhat." Do you think people choose to be gay?
    yes I do.


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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    yes I do.

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    That's what I thought. That's all I wanted to know. I'm not going to argue with you.

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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    That's what I thought. That's all I wanted to know. I'm not going to argue with you.
    ok

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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    This graf was also particularly interesting to me:

    Americans divide about evenly — 49 to 46 percent — on whether gay-marriage laws should be made at the state or federal level. Most backers of same-sex marriage support a federal approach, while opponents prefer letting states decide. That is a stark shift from 2004, when a CBS News-New York Times poll found widespread support for federal authority over gay marriage among its opponents, not its supporters.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    This graf was also particularly interesting to me:
    I'd like to see it passed at a national level. Or at least voted on.
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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I'd like to see it passed at a national level. Or at least voted on.
    I think the Supreme Court will rule on the issue within the next decade or so, but in any case I do believe it should be done at the federal level, not the state level.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: After President Obama’s announcement, opposition to same-sex marriage hits record

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think the Supreme Court will rule on the issue within the next decade or so, but in any case I do believe it should be done at the federal level, not the state level.
    Yea, when it is done at a state level people still do not get the same benefits or recognition as a hetero married couple.
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