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Is Batman gay? Major DC Comics character to come out of the closet

It's a bit sad how such iconic comics are being used as a political tool. When does Spiderman reveal himself to be a capitalist, and the Hulk a pro-life supporter, or Thor a Ron Paul supporter?
 
Wake said:
It's a bit sad how such iconic comics are being used as a political tool. When does Spiderman reveal himself to be a capitalist, and the Hulk a pro-life supporter, or Thor a Ron Paul supporter?
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Oh for god's sake, how is being gay using a character as a political tool? That is painfully stupid.

By the way, did you complain when comics made their characters drug addicts and alcoholics to make points? Why or why not?
 
Redress said:
Oh for god's sake, how is being gay using a character as a political tool? That is painfully stupid.

By the way, did you complain when comics made their characters drug addicts and alcoholics to make points? Why or why not?
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damn even as a teenager I figured Batman was doing Robin Sort of like Spartans. Still liked watching those shows and the movies.
 
Redress said:
Oh for god's sake, how is being gay using a character as a political tool? That is painfully stupid.

By the way, did you complain when comics made their characters drug addicts and alcoholics to make points? Why or why not?
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If someone creates a character and makes him obviously a drunk or drug addict why complain, it is what it is. But since Batman is not obviously gay and I have seen no evidence the actual creator meant him to be gay it is not a big leap to think that declaring Batman gay has some political motiviation behind it in todays market and political climate.
 
jambalaya said:
If someone creates a character and makes him obviously a drunk or drug addict why complain, it is what it is. But since Batman is not obviously gay and I have seen no evidence the actual creator meant him to be gay it is not a big leap to think that declaring Batman gay has some political motiviation behind it in today market and political climate.
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First: Batman being the character that is revealed to be gay is an assumption. I actually think Batgirl is more likely, and there are a large number of other possibilities.

Second: big reveals about characters is normal for comics. Hell, read the history of the DC universe, which has had more complete rebootings than you can count. Characters die and come back all the time.
 
Wake said:
It's a bit sad how such iconic comics are being used as a political tool. When does Spiderman reveal himself to be a capitalist, and the Hulk a pro-life supporter, or Thor a Ron Paul supporter?
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political tool? I suppose creating popular black characters back in the 60s was political too, right?
 
Wake said:
It's a bit sad how such iconic comics are being used as a political tool. When does Spiderman reveal himself to be a capitalist, and the Hulk a pro-life supporter, or Thor a Ron Paul supporter?
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I'm amused you do not understand an obvious use of the comic book is to frequently use the superhero as a means of providing social commentary. Not that I approve of making Batman gay after already being a long and established character, but your response seems ill-informed.
 
Don't approve of changing the sexuality of a long-standing character if that character's sexuality has ever mattered to that character.

Making Batman gay would be a problem. (Catwoman, Talia al Ghul... these aren't just flings, these are relationships that have had profound influence on his life.) Superman? His civilian identity is as whitebread as possible to contrast with his amazing powers and the fact that he's the illegalest and alienest of the illegal aliens. Making him into any kind of minority misses the point. Making Hal Jordan gay would send me into a frothing homicidal rage.

Using J'onn would be a copout, since he's an alien-- and an alien alien, unlike Superman-- but could work. Cyborg is a good bet, and might actually be intriguing when combined with his body issues. It would work with Wonder Woman, but that would be pandering to an entirely different demographic.

I'd rather see them make new gay characters, and then write those characters into major figures in the DC Universe.
 
Wake said:
It's a bit sad how such iconic comics are being used as a political tool. When does Spiderman reveal himself to be a capitalist, and the Hulk a pro-life supporter, or Thor a Ron Paul supporter?
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A political tool? So a comic maker, seeking to expand their audience, decides to make a change in a character, and you see politics?

Color me shocked.

:coffeepap
 
Redress said:
Oh for god's sake, how is being gay using a character as a political tool? That is painfully stupid.

By the way, did you complain when comics made their characters drug addicts and alcoholics to make points? Why or why not?
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Or when they were nothing but propaganda during WW2.
 
I personally doubt it will be Batman, precisely because of the commercial appeal cited here. DC movies have been pretty bad, with the exception of the Batman franchise. I highly doubt they will mess with it and take with it. They could turn the Green Lantern gay because really...who would pay to see that sequel?
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Using J'onn would be a copout, since he's an alien-- and an alien alien, unlike Superman-- but could work. Cyborg is a good bet, and might actually be intriguing when combined with his body issues. It would work with Wonder Woman, but that would be pandering to an entirely different demographic.
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I actually am betting Batgirl for basically the same reason it would work for Wonder Woman.

And when did Batgirl become not crippled?
 
Erod said:
Really? Can we just leave little boys alone and let them play without having to ponder whether Batman is a pitcher or a catcher in the bedroom?

Is there no bounds?
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Where does anyone get Batman out of this? That's just feckless rumor-mongering.

Besides, Grant Morrison said only a few weeks ago that Batman is hetero.

And no, despite what jokes have been going around for decades, it doesn't actually make sense for the character.

The whole thing seems pretty stunt-ish, anyway.
 
Redress said:
I actually am betting Batgirl for basically the same reason it would work for Wonder Woman.

And when did Batgirl become not crippled?
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A lesbian Batgirl or Wonder Woman is something I could get behind!
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
This doesn't jive with the movies, very well.
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First off, there's just the assumption that it's Batman, nobody really knows. Secondly, the movies and the comics are two entirely different things so it really doesn't matter what jives with the movies. Third, they just had their New 52 reboot of the entire DC universe in September, therefore anything that happened before then was thrown completely out. It never happened.
 
VanceMack said:
I personally doubt it will be Batman, precisely because of the commercial appeal cited here. DC movies have been pretty bad, with the exception of the Batman franchise. I highly doubt they will mess with it and take with it. They could turn the Green Lantern gay because really...who would pay to see that sequel?
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You can also reverse trends. It's not as if what happens to a character in one series has to stay with a character in another series.
 
Fiddytree said:
I'm amused you do not understand an obvious use of the comic book is to frequently use the superhero as a means of providing social commentary. Not that I approve of making Batman gay after already being a long and established character, but your response seems ill-informed.
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Exactly. I've been reading through a lot of the old Iron Man comics from the 60s and they did a lot of environmental stories in the late 60s/early 70s. DC rebooted Firestorm in the early 90s and made him a crusader against nuclear proliferation. Anyone who says comic characters haven't always been used for providing social commentary has never read comics.

I mean come on...

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Fiddytree said:
You can also reverse trends. It's not as if what happens to a character in one series has to stay with a character in another series.
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Its not about the character development. That has changed a bit with each incarnation. Im talking about taking a risk with the commercial viability of it. The fanboys would probably be alright with it (though from what I have seen of some of them, they might be just as likely to be pissed at tampering with the character and might boycott the movie for that reason alone), but there 'may' be a backlash from the general viewing public and I dont see them taking that risk. If it aint broke, you dont break it.
 
Redress said:
I actually am betting Batgirl for basically the same reason it would work for Wonder Woman.

And when did Batgirl become not crippled?
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Flashpoint. It was a continuity-wide reboot-- Barbara can walk because The Killing Joke never happened.
 
VanceMack said:
Its not about the character development. That has changed a bit with each incarnation. Im talking about taking a risk with the commercial viability of it. The fanboys would probably be alright with it (though from what I have seen of some of them, they might be just as likely to be pissed at tampering with the character and might boycott the movie for that reason alone), but there 'may' be a backlash from the general viewing public and I dont see them taking that risk. If it aint broke, you dont break it.
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Very few people who know the characters only from the movies care or know what happens in the comics. They are two different worlds. Superman has been dead. Didn't stop anyone from seeing Superman movies. Batman has been dead, had his back broken, etc. Didn't stop anyone from seeing Batman movies. I'm sure the vast majority of people who go to the movies don't know and don't care about the comics, they're just seeing the cultural icons that they've always known about in society.
 
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