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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Um, No. All the experts say that at the very least the mandate in the law will be struck down. Heck, even Obama says he needs a second term to 'fix' it.

    If Minimum wage were dictated through a regulatory body with no congressional say so, then you might have a salient analogy. As it stands, you do not. What you have is a President that currently in office can not run his re election campaign on his failure of a record, so in order to pick a fight that will make headlines, turns to his HHS czar to craft this distracting regulation that will go down in court, just as his unconstitutional HC law will, all for the cynical end of pulling our eye off the fact that he is quite possibly the worst President in history. Obama will be the first President to leave office with the stigma of,
    a net loss of jobs
    the highest debt accumulation in the shortest time
    the highest energy costs
    the most corrupt administration in history
    not getting a single initiative done while having a majority in both houses for his first two years.
    highest dependency on welfare in history
    Progressive Liberalism/Marxism is a failure in this country, and Americans don't want your statist vision of nanny state, under governmental thumb top down control of their lives, and society.
    You progressives need to find that rock y'all hid under for 100 years, and crawl back under it so we can fix the mess y'all just created.
    What a bundle of half-truths and horse crap! From which Right-winger site did you copy that? LOL!



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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Um, No. All the experts say that at the very least the mandate in the law will be struck down. Heck, even Obama says he needs a second term to 'fix' it.




    If Minimum wage were dictated through a regulatory body with no congressional say so, then you might have a salient analogy. As it stands, you do not. What you have is a President that currently in office can not run his re election campaign on his failure of a record, so in order to pick a fight that will make headlines, turns to his HHS czar to craft this distracting regulation that will go down in court, just as his unconstitutional HC law will, all for the cynical end of pulling our eye off the fact that he is quite possibly the worst President in history. Obama will be the first President to leave office with the stigma of,

    a net loss of jobs

    the highest debt accumulation in the shortest time

    the highest energy costs

    the most corrupt administration in history

    not getting a single initiative done while having a majority in both houses for his first two years.

    highest dependency on welfare in history

    Progressive Liberalism/Marxism is a failure in this country, and Americans don't want your statist vision of nanny state, under governmental thumb top down control of their lives, and society.

    You progressives need to find that rock y'all hid under for 100 years, and crawl back under it so we can fix the mess y'all just created.


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    If it's struck down j it doesn't happen. We're discussing if it does happen. Then it will be law.

    BTW, have your experts ever been wrong? Just wondering. . . .

    The rest of post is kind of nonsenseical. Did the government mandate minimum wage or not? Will it not be the government mandating BC be covered or not? This is really pretty simple j.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I am not now nor have I ever considered the idea of the government replacing my local doctor's office, or the local hospital, or any other health care provider.
    But, alas, that is what you will get when you depend on the government to pay for your care and the government decides what they will pay for. The only solution then is for you to be rich enough to fly to India or Thailand and pay for your care directly. The link accurately describes what you can expect under Obamacare.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    But, alas, that is what you will get when you depend on the government to pay for your care and the government decides what they will pay for. The only solution then is for you to be rich enough to fly to India or Thailand and pay for your care directly. The link accurately describes what you can expect under Obamacare.
    Oh stuff and nonsense.. Don't you know anything about the healthcare industry over the past 25 years?

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    But, alas, that is what you will get when you depend on the government to pay for your care and the government decides what they will pay for. The only solution then is for you to be rich enough to fly to India or Thailand and pay for your care directly. The link accurately describes what you can expect under Obamacare.
    Again, not true. I think your read too much propaganda on this and too little factual information.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    But, alas, that is what you will get when you depend on the government to pay for your care and the government decides what they will pay for. The only solution then is for you to be rich enough to fly to India or Thailand and pay for your care directly. The link accurately describes what you can expect under Obamacare.
    They wanna' kill me!!!





    LOL! Doesn't sit well with the other half of your camp that thinks they're increasing the number of poor for voting power. You guys need to get your conspiracies straight. LOL!
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    They wanna' kill me!!!



    LOL! Doesn't sit well with the other half of your camp that thinks they're increasing the number of poor for voting power. You guys need to get your conspiracies straight. LOL!
    We need to get the message right. We can't afford to kill anybody who is/will contribute to the economy and tax revenue stream. The rest however...

    I think you are ok Mo.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Oh stuff and nonsense.. Don't you know anything about the healthcare industry over the past 25 years?
    Evidently I know much more about it than you do.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Evidently I know much more about it than you do.
    I'm afraid you have not demonstrated knowledge. When you make statements as you did above that are not factually true, it is fair to question your understanding.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm afraid you have not demonstrated knowledge. When you make statements as you did above that are not factually true, it is fair to question your understanding.

    You can say whatever you want, however I don't think you are an honest observer in this....Here is an Obama advisor on the issue speaking at Berkley University.




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