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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    We all know that you and your kind would rather us all be held hostage by the insurance industry.
    You and your kind prefer being held hostage by unelected bureaucrats?
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    You and your kind prefer being held hostage by unelected bureaucrats?
    How much money do the insurance companies have to gain - how much do they make right now?!? - in health care? And over the past 40 years how have things gotten better, exactly?!? How much does health care cost now compared to then and how has that effected insurance company profits?

    And how much will the bureaucrat's salary change over these issues? How much has it changed in the past 40 years?

    The insurance company has every reason to continue soaking us for all they can get.

    The bureaucrat has no stake in the game to speak of so I'll place my bet there, thanks.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If the government doesn't want their money going to Church-based hospitals, then I guess they should restrict the insured from seeking care in those facilities. Just because abortion is legal, and the government has deemed that people have a "right" to having their birth control or abortions funded, doesn't imply that Catholic or any other church-based hospital should have to provide those services. It's like saying that a children's hospital must provide services to adults, because adults have rights to health care.

    I agree.

    Those that want the Catholic hospitals to "give over and give in" to the gov't, also want the hospitals to continue to operate.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    No wonder the Catholic church is losing members daily.
    They are fast becoming history and it won't be the 1st time an organization failed to keep up with the times and disappears.
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    I hope you are right. At least no women will be Catholic.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    How much money do the insurance companies have to gain - how much do they make right now?!? - in health care? And over the past 40 years how have things gotten better, exactly?!? How much does health care cost now compared to then and how has that effected insurance company profits?
    Health care costs (and health insurance costs) have been rising rapidly for the last 50 years, neatly tracking with the additional burdens of government regulation and mandates. Every time the government makes something "free" the cost goes up.

    And how much will the bureaucrat's salary change over these issues? How much has it changed in the past 40 years?
    Government programs never solve social problems, they only guarantee that those problems will continue. After all, if they did solve the problem, the bureaucrats would be out of work.

    The insurance company has every reason to continue soaking us for all they can get.
    Absolutely. The only cure for that is competition. Just look at how much money the property owners in Wisconsin are saving now that the school districts can buy health insurance from someplace besides the teachers union trust.

    The bureaucrat has no stake in the game to speak of so I'll place my bet there, thanks.
    Your apparent belief - that everyone in private business is greedy, selfish and downright evil, while all bureaucrats are saintly and selfless public employees dedicated to serving the public interest - is nothing sort of astonishing. Good luck when you take your turn before the Death Panels.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It could definitely take some votes away from Hussein Obama in November..............Catholics and Hispanics will defintely be affected.........

    Will romney win the latino vote? He is latino after all.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Not shame on them for being against it. Their moral code is every bit as reasonable as your own, just based on a different perception of values.
    Yes, shame on them. We no longer need tons of babies and large families like we could argue for once upon a time. You should hear nuns from time to time. Was speaking a wild back to a nun who have just returned to the states from working over seas. She, a Catholic nun, argued at our church that women would never be free with BC. Lots o people hold beliefs that are harmful. And it is fair to call one that is what it is, a shame.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Good deeds. Are you serious? What have they done that is exactly good except try to conquer the whole world? You don't become the world's largest religion by being good.
    You might want to investigate more. I don't see it as my job to derail this threat too much and educate on this subject. But finding the information isn't hard. As your here, I believe you must be computer literate. And as you live somewhere, there whould be some Catholics never you doing a lot of work.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I can't make you be a nurse. Nor can I make anyone perform an abortion. But there are those who do, and they are available.

    It's kind of like the pharmacist who doesn't want to fill prescriptions. If you're morally opposed, don't take the job.

    However, abortion isn't what we're talking about. No one is being forced to have an abortion or even to give an abortion. The issue here is insurance coverage covering BC. This is reasonable. And shame on the church for even being against it.
    Shame on them indeed. They cover viagra but won't cover contraception for women. I think the catholic church is just being antiwomen.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    You do realize that under your concept, a large portion of the hospitals in this country would close their doors tomorrow, right?
    What a Christian way to act...

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