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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    People would have an option.... Government Care or Moral Care. Personally, I'll take Moral Care every time.
    As would be your freedom...which is kinda the point.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I think you might be very surprised to see how many of us Non-Catholics might just start taking our money to Catholic health-care facilities if they were run on a Moral basis rather than a financial one.
    I think you'd be surprised how many people are more worried about money than morality. Just take a quick look at how well Wal-Mart does and think again. Take a look at the profits in Vegas or Atlantic City. Take a look at Internet p0rn profits. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what "morality" means to most of America.

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    I have already indicated several times around here that I will DIE before I will accept a single penny of government-paid-for healthcare.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post

    I have already indicated several times around here that I will DIE before I will accept a single penny of government-paid-for healthcare.

    I would say that is practically impossible to receive healthcare in this nation without some government funding involved.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Jump on that and don't expect Medicare to pay for your Moral Care.
    Sweet. I wish I had the option.

    Won't ever happen because then Medicare would implode very quickly.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Further, I don't think the government has any business telling me (or my insurer) what must be covered by the policy I buy. If I don't feel the need for coverage for sex change operations, drug rehabilitation, pregnancy, facelifts, etc. then I should be able to exclude them from the policy.
    You certainly have the right to not use part of your policy but don't expect to save money from not having most of that stuff as part of your policy. It is often cheaper to take the generic package than some custom fabrication and I have no doubt insurance is the same.


    I'm sure you can exclude whatever you want from the generic policy - no doubt for an extra fee.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    Pp should get there money taken away cause it is a violation of Rowe v wade.
    I suppose you are going to follow this comment up with Data, the Idea is debate rather than opinion.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I would say that is practically impossible to receive healthcare in this nation without some government funding involved.
    That is a shame.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Well it's logic if I give you money that pays for your basic operating procedures and you take the money you would have spent on that into performing abortions I am helping pay for abortions.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I think you'd be surprised how many people are more worried about money than morality.
    I'm not surprised at all. My problem comes when I go into a medical facility and tell them.... "Here are the list of restrictions on my care." They tend to get very annoyed, upset, etc... when I hand them a DNR, a Living Will, etc... that severely limit what they can do for/with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I have no clue how old you are and don't want to know but I'm sure you'll get your wish as you get older.
    I'll be 38 this summer. I don't even want the money the government has stolen from me for it back. I'll be happy to just have them stop stealing any more of it on a weekly basis, thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I would say that is practically impossible to receive healthcare in this nation without some government funding involved.
    I'm not talking about funding for research or things like that. I'm saying that if I cannot pay for the medical services myself or through my employer-based medical plan, I will not accept any service that is paid for by the government. I would rather die.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Sweet. I wish I had the option.

    Won't ever happen because then Medicare would implode very quickly.
    What? You think your FICA payments would stop? Hahahaha! But, hey, you don't have to use the Medicare card.
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