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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Tell me why it is so important to have Catholic institutions pay for services that are against their doctrine?


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    Because everyone else has to and I don't believe in special rights. Do you?
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

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    You do not even see the irony in your statement.....do you?
    I see the irony you would like there to be.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

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    Because everyone else has to and I don't believe in special rights. Do you?

    But that is just the point, no one else "has" to do anything, even at this moment offer health ins at all. This isn't a law that was passed, it is an over reaching regulation from an HHS secretary that once supporter the infamous Dr. Tiller 'the baby killer'.... It is heavy handed central government trying to tell a religion that they no longer have freedom to their own beliefs.


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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Tell me why it is so important to have Catholic institutions pay for services that are against their doctrine?


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    Because...everyone else must do so according to law.

    Gov't is separated from church....but church is still a part of America,,,,,,,unfortunately.
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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But that is just the point, no one else "has" to do anything, even at this moment offer health ins at all. This isn't a law that was passed, it is an over reaching regulation from an HHS secretary that once supporter the infamous Dr. Tiller 'the baby killer'.... It is heavy handed central government trying to tell a religion that they no longer have freedom to their own beliefs.


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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Sorry, but the HC law from Obama is not yet implemented, and may never be. Now this goes further, it smacks of the administration knowing that it will not be upheld, and trying to circumvent the court through regulation. Which is underhanded, and quite unconstitutional as well...The Church will win their law suit as well....Then what? Thugs at the rectory?


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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    This has nothing to do with the use of BC.

    It has to do with forcing the Church to pay for it.

    Huge difference.
    The Catholic Church has a lot of damn gall preaching morality while, at the same time, hiding pedophile priests and letting them ruin the lives of children for so many years. The Catholic Church's brazen role in protecting child molesters is legendary, and the Church believes that it is so much above the law that Bishops have even BRIBED pedophile priests instead of having them arrested and thrown in prison, where they belong. So please save that morality bull**** for someone else. Jesus said that you may know of ANYTHING by the fruit it bears. Take one long look at the fruit that the Catholic Church bears (The inquisition, the persecution of Jews, it's support of Adolf Hitler, indulgences, preaching the heresy that only a priest or a pope can intervene for a sinner, and yes, child molestation of epic proportions too), and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that it does not speak for God or Jesus. It speaks for it's own Satanic self. The Catholic Church is in no position whatsoever to preach morality to ANYBODY. Period.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The Catholic Church has a lot of damn gall preaching morality while, at the same time, hiding pedophile priests and letting them ruin the lives of children for so many years. The Catholic Church's brazen role in protecting child molesters is legendary, and the Church believes that it is so much above the law that Bishops have even BRIBED pedophile priests instead of having them arrested and thrown in prison, where they belong. So please save that morality bull**** for someone else. Jesus said that you may know of ANYTHING by the fruit it bears. Take one long look at the fruit that the Catholic Church bears (The inquisition, the persecution of Jews, it's support of Adolf Hitler, indulgences, preaching the heresy that only a priest or a pope can intervene for a sinner, and yes, child molestation of epic proportions too), and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that it does not speak for God or Jesus. It speaks for it's own Satanic self. The Catholic Church is in no position whatsoever to preach morality to ANYBODY. Period.

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    Oh dear "LOLconservative" danarhea, I thought you'd be ecstatic over the church taking the media's lead with their agenda of hiding homosexual crimes?

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Tell me why it is so important to have Catholic institutions pay for services that are against their doctrine?


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    Important? You're out in left field j. It's just fair. Again, I don't believe what I get from the Church is theirs when it is compensation for services rendered. I worked for Mercy Hosptial in Iowa city for some years. They were clear to me that the insurance they provided was like pay. I accepted their explanation then and now. It is about them trying to tell those who don't share their belief what to do with their compensation. I think your view is skewed. Remember, most Catholics are fine with contracptions.

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    Re: Catholics sue Obama over birth control mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The larger question is about whom sets doctrine....

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    Old white males who don't make a lot of babies?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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