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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Sadly, my state of Michigan is not on that disclosure list - as most other states are not either.

    Until they reveal just what they are putting into the ground in Michigan and in what quantities and what the long term effects are, we are simply putting public safety into the wrong hands. The same applies to every other state on that map without a red dot on it where fracking is being carried out.
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly, my state of Michigan is not on that disclosure list - as most other states are not either.
    Production in Michigan is so minimal that it's not really relevant.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

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    Production in Michigan is so minimal that it's not really relevant.
    So close it down then.
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So close it down then.
    Perfect. That's just what Michigan needs. Your economy blows, manufacturing has all but died, and now you want to kill off another industry. We should stop sending you petroleum and money.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
    Perfect. That's just what Michigan needs. Your economy blows, manufacturing has all but died, and now you want to kill off another industry. We should stop sending you petroleum and money.
    You already told us that production in Michigan is minimal. But now the whole economy seems to hinge upon it.

    Please make up your mind.
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You already told us that production in Michigan is minimal. But now the whole economy seems to hinge upon it.

    Please make up your mind.
    Umm... reading comprehension problem? Or did you just not bother?

    You have power plants that are powered by the minimal gas production you have there PLUS the gas sent to you by other states. If you want to ban it, that's fine. You will have to spend more to get gas from other states sending your gas prices higher and further depressing your sorry economy. And in addition, because of your support for an end to fracking, we should charge you a NIMBY tax of 1000%.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    This is what YOU said

    Production in Michigan is so minimal that it's not really relevant.
    But now its somehow a big deal that the state economy hinges on it.

    Amazing!!!

    Talk about trying to have it both ways!!!!
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This is what YOU said



    But now its somehow a big deal that the state economy hinges on it.

    Amazing!!!

    Talk about trying to have it both ways!!!!
    Yeah, lying again...

    Let's try this one more time.

    1. Michigan gas production is so minimal to the national economy that it is irrelevant.
    2. Michigan gas production is relevant to the local Michigan economy for a couple of reasons.
    2-A. The gas production in your state provides jobs, you know, those things you generally see leaving the state.
    2-B. Gas production in your state helps keep transportation costs down for consumers of natural gas in your state.
    2-C. Natural Gas is the primary method of electricity production in your state.
    2-D. Eliminating gas production in your state by any margin will increase the cost of electricity in your state because you will have to pay for out of state gas to be transported to Michigan.
    2-E. The increase in costs will either force more people to go on public assistance or leave the state.
    2-F. You won't have the tax base to support public assistance so you'll be forced to get more money from the federal (ie. other states).
    2-G. Because you will be a drain on the other states, you will be hurting their economies.
    3. But out of principle, you should not be allowed to purchase natural gas if you're not going to drill for natural gas. Go to coal.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Its funny watching you trying to have it both ways.

    Now you are treading water as fast as you can after first telling us that

    Production in Michigan is so minimal that it's not really relevant.
    Now , all of the sudden, its important as all get out.

    You really cannot have it both ways. But a tip of the hat for trying.
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Its funny watching you trying to have it both ways.

    Now you are treading water as fast as you can after first telling us that



    Now , all of the sudden, its important as all get out.

    You really cannot have it both ways. But a tip of the hat for trying.
    Funny how you didn't bother to address one of my points.

    Do you always dodge and evade when proven wrong?

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