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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There is a permit requirement under the CWA, which I'm sure requires disclosure.
    You realize that you're contradicting yourself. Right?

    Or, is this some conspiracy theory about how the oil and gas industry is knowingly violating the Clean Water Act?
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You realize that you're contradicting yourself. Right?

    Or, is this some conspiracy theory about how the oil and gas industry is knowingly violating the Clean Water Act?
    I added to my post before you responded. The CWA generally applies to industries that dicharge into "navigable waters", so it probably does not apply to underground fissures.
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    CNN) -- Vermont's governor has signed a bill making it the first U.S. state to ban fracking, the controversial practice to extract natural gas from the ground.
    Vermont first state to ban fracking - CNN.com


    I wish there was a way to have these not in my back yard states pay more for affordable energy that is produced in other states that are willing to do what needs to be done. They are like leeches on America, perfectly willing to get reduced prices on fuel from other states like North Dakota but not willing to do their share for our country. Hey Vermont, Kiss My Ass!
    That's OK. Vermont can do as they please. Besides, Kansas just banned off shore windmills. So it evens out.
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I added to my post before you responded. The CWA generally applies to industries that dicharge into "navigable waters", so it probably does not apply to underground fissures.
    And, in comes the Safe Drinking Water Act.

    The 1974 act authorized EPA to regulate injection wells in order to protect underground sources of drinking water. Congress amended the SDWA in 2005 to exclude hydraulic fracturing, an industrial process for recovering oil and natural gas, from coverage under the UIC program.


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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

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    ...espeicaly since the chems used are EPA approved biodegradable agents.
    It's good to see you support the EPA.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Am I a drilling genius? Of course not. There's no such thing as a, "drilling genius". My father drilled oil wells for 50 years and he learned new **** until the day he died.
    Do you think someone who makes their money by drilling oil wells would be objective concerning issues that could end their business?

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
    Frankly, a greater threat is posed by herbicides and pesticides.
    You are probably correct.

    I say let's deal with these issues also. I don't see how this affects concerns about fracking. Aren't we, as a society, able to deal with multiple things simultaneously?

    We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

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    Houston makes me hope Global Warming is real and imminent... j/k
    If you worked in a machine shop like I do, you might well think this is the case. Our shop isn't air-conditioned. Come by in July and see for yourself!

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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, in comes the Safe Drinking Water Act.



    Don't worry. The gubmint is keeping you safe, so you won't have to do it yourself.
    Apparently not, as they excluded fracking from the Safe Drinking Water Act. So who, exactly, is singling out fracking?
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    Re: Vermont first state to ban fracking

    Quote Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post
    I thought righties favored state rights to determine their own fate?
    I do. Vermont has the ability to determine its own economic path and future. Just don't see the rest of us wanting that for ourselves. The environment has been the least of my concerns surrounding this booming technique.
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