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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    They are as soon as they sign the dotted line. Don't like it, don't sign.
    Depending upon the state.

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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
    Depends on what state you're in.
    Yeah I just looked up employment laws in Georgia on off duty conduct and found there arnt any so apparently they were in their rights.

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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    vendur-
    That seems like a very poor comparison. If the gay judge wrote extensive opinions on pushing the activist gay agenda, ie gays should move to the front of any hiring/adoption/appointment line ya have a point. If the judge is openly gay but rules in accordance to existing Virginia law... you have none what so ever.

    The Taliwackers didn't start out loping heads off and beating slattern women, they stood for restoring traditional values that had been suppressed by the Soviets. Those bad ol' Commies had dared to educate women and place them in the workforce. Bad ol' Commies!

    I can see where the private sector is sacred crowd wants the 'marketplace' to decide discrimination outside of the government. It is an attractive siren. I hesitate to give it too much credit for being a steady hand, it's track record isn't the best. For large segments of the society it works fairly well, women getting the vote was a bit slow but at least it got done. Prohibition not so better but corrected once organized crime was well established.

    But for smaller groups it lacks the clout. I can't get on board with blacks first being freed and then a century later gaining something close to an end to outright discrimination if we relied on just the private sector to guide us to that better place.

    I am of the mind it doesn't matter what one does in the privacy of their home so no one not even a religious organization gets to dictate the private life of an employee. If the employee is also an follower, no problem. If the employee creates a major scandal then a very carefully worded morals clause sounds enforceable, but not a blanket prohibition.

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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    oral roberts or liberty university, which did you attend instead?
    This reminds me of a joke............ What do you call two gay guys named Bob?
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign


    A small Baptist school in Georgia has recently required its faculty members to sign a statement that would cause them to swear to behaving in a certain way



    One of those who has not resigned is the librarian, Mr Wilson. He's gay and he crossed out the line "I reject as acceptable all sexual activity not in agreement with the Bible, including, but not limited to, premarital sex, adultery, and homosexuality." when he signed the doctrinal behaviour statement. He does not expect to keep his position at the school and has already sent his resume to several other colleges.
    A religious school wanting it's faculty to abide by it's religious moral code? Say it ain't so. What next someone getting a speeding ticket for going 10 miles over the speed limit, a fat man at a all-you-can-eat buffet, a crack whore selling her body for crack, MSNBC trying to paint republicans as racist, a thread in the conspiracy forum section about how Obama's birth certificate is a fake, or dog peeing on a tree to mark it's territory?
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and who said sharia law would not come to the US
    clearly, our own version is alive and healthy in GA
    What law are we talking about here?
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    maybe we should block homophobes from govt. office.
    So you are presuming they are homophobes, instead of it being a conflict of interest issue.
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign


    A small Baptist school in Georgia has recently required its faculty members to sign a statement that would cause them to swear to behaving in a certain way



    One of those who has not resigned is the librarian, Mr Wilson. He's gay and he crossed out the line "I reject as acceptable all sexual activity not in agreement with the Bible, including, but not limited to, premarital sex, adultery, and homosexuality." when he signed the doctrinal behaviour statement. He does not expect to keep his position at the school and has already sent his resume to several other colleges.


    Private school - their rules.

    Faculty took a hike - their right.

    Sounds like it's worked out to everyone's benefit.


    I don't care. Lots and lots of colleges and universities to choose from - pick one.

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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Private school - their rules.

    Faculty took a hike - their right.

    Sounds like it's worked out to everyone's benefit.


    I don't care. Lots and lots of colleges and universities to choose from - pick one.
    Actually the school is hurting from this, so no it didn't work out to everyone's benefit. School should have thought of this before implementing such a rule.
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Actually the school is hurting from this, so no it didn't work out to everyone's benefit. School should have thought of this before implementing such a rule.


    If the school didn't realize it would loose teachers because of this action, then their bad. We learn, or most do, from our mistakes.

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