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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Ahhh, I never put the "antipathy" part in there.
    Where do you usually put it?

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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Where do you usually put it?

    I'd probably put it in the bull**** bin along with "racist", which basically means "anyone who isn't a like-minded left wing bigot like me", when originally it meant something quite different.

    The whole aversion and in some dictionaries discrimination are all inserts of recent vintage. Think they started adding it about 10 years ago. 12 year old websters doesn't have it.

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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    I'd probably put it in the bull**** bin along with "racist", which basically means "anyone who isn't a like-minded left wing bigot like me", when originally it meant something quite different.

    The whole aversion and in some dictionaries discrimination are all inserts of recent vintage. Think they started adding it about 10 years ago. 12 year old websters doesn't have it.

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    State legislature in Virginia voted NOT to let a prosecutor become a judge, for the simple reason that he is gay.

    It is indeed a slippery slope. The more homophobia becomes acceptable, the more gays will be discriminated against.
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    By what possible right does this school think it can dictate the private lives of its employees? Anything off of school grounds is none of their business.
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    By what possible right does this school think it can dictate the private lives of its employees? Anything off of school grounds is none of their business.
    Well, according to some crazy people I've talked to, teachers should never swear, insult anyone or annoy people online. :P If they do, they're HORRIBLE TEACHERS AND SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!


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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    By what possible right does this school think it can dictate the private lives of its employees? Anything off of school grounds is none of their business.


    It's a weird document called the constitution. Only racist homopobes care about it. I say we wrap them all up in and burn them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Where do you usually put it?
    I put it in your FACE.


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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Well, according to some crazy people I've talked to, teachers should never swear, insult anyone or annoy people online. :P If they do, they're HORRIBLE TEACHERS AND SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!
    So they can't be human basically?
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    re: Faculty leaving University in droves over statement they must sign [W:89]

    It does seem to be difficult for some folks to read even the very short bit I quoted to start this thread and also to understand just what has happened at Shorter University.

    The school is 139 years old, not something out of the 60s like Liberty, Regent and Oral Roberts. So it has tradition, it has always been a Baptist school but about six years ago, there was some type of political fight and a group of strict fundamentalists seized control of the Board of Trustees and since then they have gradually forced onto the University their ideas.

    It was only in October of last year that this doctrinal statement was added to the employment contract. The question I have is - Why? Why now? What changed at the school that brought about this new direction, something that had not been forced upon the faculty and employees in previous years?

    Here's a bit more from Inside Higher Ed
    Faith statements or lifestyle requirements are not unusual at Christian colleges. But at Shorter, the statement is the clearest indicator of the impact of a court battle the university lost six years ago, when the college and the Georgia Baptist Convention went to the Georgia Supreme Court to determine who would control the college's board of trustees and, ultimately, its direction. At the time, Baptist colleges around the country were breaking away from their state conventions. In some cases, disputes were about doctrine, such as policies on gay students and faculty. In other cases, including Shorter, they were about institutional control.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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